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Jaguar X-Type, Wagon
Apr 10, 2006 (6:25 am)
I have owned German cars all my life. Porches, BMWs, etc.. My last car was a 2000 BMW 328i fully loaded Estate. I enjoyed every mile on it. Then as I normally do after a while the car bug starts to tickle me... Surfing on the web I went from site to site, not even thinking of Jaguar. After all one of my jokes about Jags WAS one would need a cousin who has a garage due to reliability problems. BUT a year ago I visited my friend in Canada, he has been leasing the XJ series for years. We drove it to the USA 30 hrs, and we switched. I liked it.
Ok there I was surfing the web and I fell on the local dealer web site. There it was, British Racing Green, 17 inch wheels, champagne leather, and diesel. I wanted diesel as price of petrol has been and will certainly keep on climbing, in Europe. There I was looking at economical luxury.
Off to the dealer, test drove it.
First impressions were very positive, although it took me a while to get used to the driver's seat. The BMW offered more semi angles, whatever, that I had put into the memory of the seat. Looking around the car I noticed it was more luxurious than the BMW. Yes the BMW was loaded but it was that German strict luxury that had appealed to me all these yera. But this basic Jag was loaded, the wood, the leather, the sound system, the great 17 inch wheels, parking assistance.
Any case there I was in this heavy feeling car, changed gears (my BMW was a Tiptronic), got used to it a bit and pushed it expecting to have a slow climb in speed, oh no, it had that wow thrust. What? A silly 2.0 DIESEL engine can do that? Yes it did. I have since learned about its turbo and booster, smart engineering by Ford-Jag.
Went home, surfed the web focusing on Jag and trying to dig out the worst evaluations, found a few but certainly found more on the positive side. But there was always this reliability issue, which seemed to have subsided by 2004. Ok I was convinced.
Went back to the dealer and drove it again, still not at ease in the driver’s seat. I pushed it, it reacted. I took it on side roads outside Geneva and pushed it. It was loose compared to the BMW. However much more comfortable. Next step, I was torn, my reliable and fast BMW vs. the baby Jag. Not easy. Then it dawned on my I was comparing the two cars, i.e. they were pretty equal.
I called the dealer next day (did not have to check with my wife, she was traveling, yes I know when the cat is away...) , told him he had a deal.
Took delivery, drove from the dealer, drove it to my home in Geneva, about 50 miles, what a ride. Once in Geneva I had the warning faulty engine light ON. Thank you Jaguar. Damn Jaguar.
Called the dealer, they were very busy, they took it in a day later, they found the problem in less than 20 seconds, a wire out of its plug. Fantastic, the night before I had nightmares about how lousy my decision was. Now I was reassured, 1. the problem was negligible (yellow light) and 2. they found it. Nothing worse that several visits to the dealer for the same problem. Bravo Jag dealer.
I have lived happily ever since. I am in love. Do not miss my BMW at all.
There are a few quirks to fix, the steering makes a noise when pushed to the max on one end or the other, one of rear seat head rests is blocked. The dealer told me he will fix it next time I pass by for the service.
Eat your hearts out all you anti X-Types out there, picking on its Ford Mondeo origins, so what. Besides only 18% is Mondeo, and the even that was adapted and reengineered for the X-Type. Yes I know some parts are not up to the standard, e.g. console, so? You want to see the dry console of my more expensive BMW? Then there were some who had problems with the rear door latch, so? I had the same problem with my BMW. Some complained about the X-Type not having an automatic transmission, ca va pas? It has a small 2.0 diesel engine, what better than gears to get the max out of it. I am sure the same people would have criticized the higher consumption of the car had it been fitted with an automatic transmission.
Yes Jag is not 100% British, we all know that. Kudos to Ford for having done a better job with Jag than the original owners. Stop criticizing the car.
Show me a car without early years’ quirks. Good for Jag to have gotten rid of most of them.
I love this car and we decided to grow older together.
#63 of 85 Re: Not up to Asian standards [kkear]
May 05, 2006 (8:24 am)
Agree, specially for the earlier models. My Estate is a 2005 and it seems they have fixed most of the problems, including the interior glitches.
#64 of 85 Re: Well [jchan2]
May 05, 2006 (8:26 am)
Based on nwhat I read, it looks Jag may be actually letting go of the model and comming out with a cheaper crossover..
Hey makes our X-Types even more rare..
#65 of 85 Re: myheadpro [myheadpro]
May 05, 2006 (8:28 am)
I believe they do not come with these lights on the Classic model.
#66 of 85 Re: JAG SEATS [cjfink]
May 05, 2006 (8:25 am)
It took me a while to get used to the driver's seat.. Once you do its clear sailing.. I payed around, up , down etc.. till I found my 'seat'..
#67 of 85 Re: In our Wagons newsletter this week [Sylvia]
May 05, 2006 (8:37 am)
Although European X-Type Estate-Wagon sales seems to be disapointing for Jag, those who own them are fanatics defending their baby Jags. I find the diesel (very popular in Europe due to high fuel prices) are as good as if not better than rivals such as the BMW 3 series, VW Wagon, Merc. 220, Audi A4.. Jag is on top of it, now its up to the consumers.
Problem I think is the Jag image, old and rich.. marketing should change that.. good luck to them..
May 23, 2006 (7:40 am)
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#70 of 85 Canadian Sportwagon owners?
Sep 20, 2006 (7:54 pm)
Just looking for some opinions on this vehicle from current owners.
My wife and I took delivery of our 2006 Land Rover LR3 HSE this year, and are keeping an eye on our 9 y.o. other car, a Dodge Avenger ES. It's been a very reliable car, but it is starting to show it's age, with things breaking down, and getting worn.
While we were in the dealership ordering out LR3, we saw a Jag sportwagon sitting waiting for someone to take delivery of it.
We didn't get a chance to play with it, as it had just been detailed, and was waiting for the new owner to show up, but what we did see of it made us want to look more.
Unfortunately, these things seem to be very rare - the dealer didn't have any other samples, and I haven't ever seen one on the road or even in a parking lot.
I was at a recent customer event for my LR/Jag/Bentley/Aston/Rolls dealer, and other Jag owners were surprised to learn that there was even such thing as a Jag wagon - and they had been to the dealership many times over the years...
My question is how are they? Can I just take an X-Type 3.0 for a spin, and expect much of the same from the wagon?
Do you make enough use out of the wagon part that I should really consider the X-Type Sport? (I already have the hulking Landy)...
#71 of 85 Re: Canadian Sportwagon owners? [dandrews1]
Sep 21, 2006 (3:57 pm)
I don't own one but I guess it wouldn't hurt to test drive both the sportwagon and the sedan version- afterall it isn't like they are selling fast.
I would probably choose the model that has the bigger rebates- I remember checking recently that Jaguar had somewhere in the neighborhood of $5000 Dealer "Marketing Support" on the X Type 3.0 Sedan, which if you bargain hard, you can get it almost entirely passed on to you.
I didn't check the rebates on the Sportwagon.