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Subaru Legacy, Sedan, Wagon
Feb 23, 2004 (9:53 am)
I think the Mazda3 offers a Nav option, it may be the cheapest model to do so. My guess is they probably made one for the Volvo S40, and then figured why not let Mazda sell it also, since they share a platform?
A 2 month gap is a long time, do you have a beater you could use in the interim?
The Forester XT was clocked at 5.3 seconds to 60, 1/4 mile in 13.8 IIRC. The new Legacy turbo will have 40 more horses and only weighs slightly more, so do the math.
#47 of 95 0-60 in 5.5 Secs.
Feb 23, 2004 (12:15 pm)
This stat used to be listed in the Need-Desire.Com webstie for the Leagcy. I noticed they removed that claim around the first week of February. Hmm? Are they trying to play it safe because the automatic can't make that time. Or was it a overzealous claim? I hope the car can break the 6 sec. 0-60 mark.
Feb 23, 2004 (12:39 pm)
"This stat used to be listed in the Need-Desire.Com webstie for the Leagcy. I noticed they removed that claim around the first week of February. Hmm? Are they trying to play it safe because the automatic can't make that time. Or was it a overzealous claim? I hope the car can break the 6 sec. 0-60 mark. "
- No idea, but did see the 5.5 secs on the site two weeks ago. They were advertising the WRX at 6.4 secs, even though it was uncertain the Auto could do it (still not sure if the auto can).
- The Auto for the GT might hit the 6 sec. mark for 0-60 though. More low-end torque vs. the WRX.
Feb 23, 2004 (12:44 pm)
They're generally conservative. They were saying the Forseter XT would go from 0-100 kph in 6.1 seconds, the production model was quicker.
I think that was SoC.
#50 of 95 interior room?
Feb 23, 2004 (12:44 pm)
The 05 Legacy is an option for my next car this year however I have sat in an 04 legacy and found that it did not have enough headroom. I am 6 foot 3 and I am curious if anyone has sat in the car yet and if so is there a considerable amount more headroom in the 05 compared to 04 (04 did not have power seats and had a sunroof).
Feb 23, 2004 (12:57 pm)
Not sure about the change in front headroom. I can tell you the sedan has much, much better rear headroom.
I took a pic of this, lemme see if I can find it:
It's picture 47 in that album, I think you may have to register at Imagestation.com.
I'm 6' and the rear head room leaves plenty of space above my head even with the moonroof on the sedan. The wagon is even better.
Feb 23, 2004 (9:35 pm)
The Pontiac Vibe(Toyota Matrix) has an in dash DVD based Nav system, and it is available with AWD. That is the least expensive Nav/AWD I can think of.
Feb 23, 2004 (9:41 pm)
The Pontiac Vibe/Toyota Matrix AWD models are terribly underpowered (of course, TRD does have a fully warranteed supercharger that you can put on the 1.8L to solve that... not sure if you can put it on the AWD version, though).
Feb 24, 2004 (7:56 am)
Actually the Vibe is much lighter than the Legacy/Outback, so even though it has less power, it is not too much slower. The advantage of the Subaru is you can get the AWD with a manual tranny which greatly helps performance. The Vibe/Matrix only have an Automatic. Neither one is a rocket, but they can certainly both keep up on the highway.
The new Turbo Subarus are another story - just plain fast.
Feb 24, 2004 (8:45 am)
Ive driven an older Outback, still with the 2.5L and auto, and felt it to be MUCH stronger than the non-AWD but still anemic Vibe auto.
I would call the current Outback signficantly quicker than the 123 hp Vibe/Matrix, and I would not call either of those vehicles suitable for the type of commute I will have in the near future.