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Re: Question for the Honda people. [exb0] by madmanmoo
Mar 13, 2007 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: exb0 (Mar 12, 2007 11:36 am)

Yes, they are made aware of the survey. Beyond that, I'm not sure if there are any consequences.
 
-Moo
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Is this acceptable? by sk8ermaiden
Apr 24, 2007 (1:19 pm)
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I'm especially interested in the perspective from the other side.
 
I recently bought a new Fusion from a big dealer here in Houston. They were pretty bad - not horrible, but pretty bad.
 
In F&I, we find out that it was not disclosed that this car has 880 miles on it. The sales guy hems and haws all over the place with everything but the truth. This was obviously used as a loaner or demo (did I mention it was missing the MSRP thing in the window too?) and was pulled because it met my (admittedly picky) criteria.
 
We're ready to walk, and VERY slimy sales manager comes in to give us a discount. Oh wait, I mean scam us some more. We eventually get our discount. I am pissed at the dealership for trying every which way to pull one over on us, but all in all, I am VERY happy with the car and am OK with the price paid.
 
I get it home and notice a deep, but very small gouge in the paint at the bottom of one of the doors. Obviously I signed at drove it away, so they're not liable anymore. They didn't have time to detail it that night, so I was told to come in this week and have that done. Here's my question. Is it OK to call the sales guy and tell him that I was not thrilled with the way he treated us, but that I'll give him 5s anyway if he'll have that gouge repainted and the license plate holder re-installed (it is crooked and off center) when I bring it in for detailing?
 
Really I think he should get what he deserves, but I just want that gouge fixed. Is that something that Ford would arrange to have done if I contacted them, bypassing the dealer?
 
Thanks all.
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Re: Is this acceptable? [sk8ermaiden] by bobst
Apr 24, 2007 (1:33 pm)
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Replying to: sk8ermaiden (Apr 24, 2007 1:19 pm)

"I think he should get what he deserves"
 
Well, if he gets the gouge fixed and gets the license plate straightened, then maybe he deseves all 5s.
 
Anyway, I think your plan is OK and I hope you like the car.
 
Besides, maybe it is good the car has some miles on it. A lot of rattles appear in the first 1000 miles. If yours is quiet, that is a very good sign.
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Re: Is this acceptable? [sk8ermaiden] by british_rover
Apr 24, 2007 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: sk8ermaiden (Apr 24, 2007 1:19 pm)

I would call tell them about the two problems and that you want them fixed. If they agree to it then give them their 5s if they back track or try to hem and haw somre more then maybe bring up the survey to see where that gets you.
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Re: Is this acceptable? [bobst] by sk8ermaiden
Apr 24, 2007 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: bobst (Apr 24, 2007 1:33 pm)

You know, I was really polite to the guy, start to finish, even though he was pushy and aggressive and at one point implied (loudly) that I was stupid based on something that he realized within 30 seconds was his own mistake. He also offended my fiance by insinuating (again loudly) that we might not be able to afford the car. (Based only on the rent we were putting down on the credit app. - without knowing what we earn.)
 
But the real kicker was him lying to us outright about what the car truly was. So yeah, I'd think he deserves less than perfect on his survey. Especially considering the car was most likely gouged while being driven as a loaner. That said, I'd still be happy as long as my car looked like new.
 
The thing is, we would have bought the same car at the same price and been 100% happy if he had been up front with us.
 
I'll admit "Get what he deserves" sounds a bit extreme.
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Re: Is this acceptable? [british_rover] by sk8ermaiden
Apr 24, 2007 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Apr 24, 2007 1:44 pm)

You're both right. If he voluntarily fixes the two problems, then I will feel better about giving him a good rating anyway.
 
Thanks
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Re: Is this acceptable? [sk8ermaiden] by joel0622
Apr 24, 2007 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: sk8ermaiden (Apr 24, 2007 1:19 pm)

I think it is two completely different items and one should have nothing to do with the other.
 
You need to call the dealer and tell them about the gouge and ask them to fix it. If they say no then note that on the survey. On a Ford survey there is a question that asks if you had any concerns after the sale, and if your concerns were addressed.
 
Even if they fix it you should still answer your survey truthfully
 
But using the survey as a bargaining chip is just another example of how the survey system is flawed and should be revamped big time.
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Re: Is this acceptable? [sk8ermaiden] by thenebean
Apr 25, 2007 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: sk8ermaiden (Apr 24, 2007 1:19 pm)

if you felt like things were slimy and the salesperson was rude, etc. you should have walked. sorry to say, but ford dealers are a dime a dozen - and you're better off spending your money at a dealer that treated you right. by buying the car where you did, you basically said to the dealer "hey, its ok to treat me like crap, because if i get the price i want, i'll buy anyways!"
 
but what is done is done now, so keep that in mind for next time. and i agree with joel - using the survey as leverage is only making the whole stupid survey process worse. i'd go back and talk to the manager, and if he doesn't comply, work your way up the food chain, indicating that their resistance to do the right thing will be reported to the BBB and others you know. fill the survey out honestly...(but also take into consideration how they handle this situation too)
 
my two cents anyways...
 
-thene
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Re: Is this acceptable? [joel0622] by jipster
Apr 25, 2007 (4:38 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Apr 24, 2007 4:08 pm)

I agree with joel. This salesdude needs to reap what he has sown. It's a new car... they should fix at no charge and be happy about it. Then you can fill out the survey as truthfully as you like. But, don't use the survey as a bargaining chip as that will likely p*ss them off.
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Re: Is this acceptable? [thenebean] by sk8ermaiden
Apr 25, 2007 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: thenebean (Apr 25, 2007 4:32 am)

Yes, Ford dealerships are a dime a dozen, especially in Houston, TX. I visited several, and encountered rampant chauvanism at most. I really didn't expect that in this day and age (shows you that this is my first car-buying experience, huh?). Don't they understand that I have money to spend and this is my car - not my fiance's?
 
I was in a tight corner because my engine needed costly repairs I didn't want to pay for, and I couldn't shop around as much as I liked.
 
I only dealt with one dealership where I liked everyone I came in contact with, unfortunately the car was a round one production missing a feature present in the round twos, and the brakes were AWFUL.
 
I wish I could just have them fix my car and still give them the score they earned, but I'm worried they won't do the right thing. The sales manager was by far the worst person I encountered there (in fact, the F&I guy is the only one who was really awesome). I don't have much hope for the rest of management.
 
 

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