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#481 of 1602 Re: Chevy needs to try again. [joestatix] by poncho167

Aug 30, 2005 (6:48 am)

Replying to: joestatix (Aug 29, 2005 7:47 pm)
Glad you finally figured it out. Most people on this forum know that the HHR, PT Cruiser, VW Bug, and dozens of other vehicles are built in Mexico. It's no coincidence that Chrysler doesn't want their over-rated hemi to be known as a Mexican engine. The quality problem is of concern in Mexico, for sure, look at the problems that Volkswagon has been having for one. Canada has a proven track record for build quality, workmanship, much more so than the U.S., and China is probably the worlds best in automobile quality. The Chinese cars coming to the U.S. by 2007, are supposed to exceed both American and Japanese car quality at almost half the price.

#482 of 1602 Re: Imitation [joestatix] by poncho167

Aug 30, 2005 (7:25 am)

Replying to: joestatix (Aug 10, 2005 2:05 pm)
"as for any one defending the chevy hhr READ THIS ." http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosconsumer/0508/10/F01-275803.htm
  
"Im not the only person who thinks chevy needs to keep trying"
 
Here is the same post from 3-weeks-ago that you presented. At that time readers presented their opinions on this drive test, and I don't get why you would want to bring this test back into circulation/discussion. Most of us have read both negative and positive things about the HHR, and by far they are positive. If you are not an HHR fan I am sure there are a lot of forums that would welcome you.

#484 of 1602 Poncho167 "Chinese cars coming to by nortsr1

Aug 30, 2005 (7:51 am)

the U.S.by 2007 are supposed to exceed both American and Japanese quality at almost half the price"????????? I can almost believe half the price part...but...llet's not go overboard on the QUALITY part!!!!!

#485 of 1602 Topic drift by PFFlyer@Edmunds HOST

Aug 30, 2005 (8:25 am)

Before we get off into imports and all that, let's remember that this is the HHR topic and we should stick to discussing that.
We do have a topic on Chinese imports. Just head to the Chinese and American (but Chinese-built cars) coming to the US.
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#486 of 1602 Lots of cars made in Mexico - so what by m1miata

Aug 30, 2005 (10:33 am)

What is the issue here with HHR being made in Mexico. The PT has been built there with no problems in assembly, for years and year. The VWs may be having some issues, but that is something which may be more related to the car parts, the particular plant, or who knows what. I doesn't mean problems are related to a countries workers.
 
What is wrong with the Hemi engine? Someone said it is overrated. Wow, all these years have gone by, and the news is that it is overrated. Thanks for the news.
 
Canada has made a few lemons too. My neighbor owned a Grand Marquis with a bad engine made in Canada. Can't say that makes Canada a bad place to build autos.
 
Loren

#487 of 1602 Re: Lots of cars made in Mexico - so what [m1miata] by 62vetteefp

Aug 30, 2005 (1:34 pm)

Replying to: m1miata (Aug 30, 2005 10:33 am)
Rendezvous is also made in Mexico and has excellent Buick quality.

#488 of 1602 Just drove two of these TIJUANA TAXIs! by 107main

Aug 30, 2005 (2:25 pm)

I put 150 miles each on two HHRs. From flat land to mountains. At 70-75 they both averaged a little over 26 MPG. Now these were brand new/no miles to start so it could get better down the road.
They drove and rode very well with one exception. On the road when going up small and large hills the small motor constantly upshifted and downshifted. It was very irritating to me and noisey. BTW, the Cobalt (same running gear) does this too. The other thing I dont like it that it is an import...made in Mexico. Seems nowadays, you have to get a Honda, Kia or Toyota to get an American made car (certain models are made in USA). I have driven many Honda Elements and the Element is a hands down better choice over the HHR. Think it is import too.
All in all, the HHR is sort of neat. I am coining a nickname for it for its looks and since it is from Mexico. The nickname its TIJUANA TAXI! Spread the word.

#489 of 1602 Re: Just drove two of these TIJUANA TAXIs! [107main] by woody68rs

Aug 30, 2005 (7:01 pm)

Replying to: 107main (Aug 30, 2005 2:25 pm)
"They drove and rode very well with one exception. On the road when going up small and large hills the small motor constantly upshifted and downshifted. It was very irritating to me and noisey."
 
In the owners manual it mentions this and tells you to drop the vehicle into "intermediate" gear until you are out of the hilly areas.
 
And IMHO I don't care whare it's made, it's a Chevrolet. And the majority of my money spent on our HHR will end up right here in the USA. If I wanted huge gas mileage numbers, that's what I would have shopped for. If I wanted all looks, I'd have bought a Vette. I opted for the HHR based on my family's needs, not someone else's opinion; and I'm very satisfied with what we got, and what we paid for it. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and to voice it. But to tell someone else that they are wrong based on one's own opinion seems pretty hypocritical. If you don't like it, say so and move on, but there are only so many ways to say you don't like it. If you do like it, give your opinion as well, and followup with whatever you think would be helpful to others considering the vehicle or to other owners as well.
Sorry for the rant, I guess it's the F Body Club Moderator in me coming out

#490 of 1602 Re: Chevy needs to try again. [poncho167] by gogophers1

Aug 31, 2005 (2:55 am)

Replying to: poncho167 (Aug 30, 2005 6:48 am)
Glad you finally figured it out. Most people on this forum know that the HHR, PT Cruiser, VW Bug, and dozens of other vehicles are built in Mexico. It's no coincidence that Chrysler doesn't want their over-rated hemi to be known as a Mexican engine. The quality problem is of concern in Mexico, for sure, look at the problems that Volkswagon has been having for one. Canada has a proven track record for build quality, workmanship, much more so than the U.S., and China is probably the worlds best in automobile quality. The Chinese cars coming to the U.S. by 2007, are supposed to exceed both American and Japanese car quality at almost half the price.
 
Is there a board specifically for xenophobes somewhere around here?
 
From what I've been reading, Chinese cars are not of acceptable quality for export yet. I'd rather have a car assembled in Mexico any day of the week - unless it's a VW. Of course, it doesn't matter where those are built. They're unreliable because they're Volkswagens.
 
As far as Canadian models being more reliable than U.S. built models, I'd love to see some data to back up that statement. That sounds like conjecture and politics talking to me.
 
Two of the most reliable cars I've ever owned, a Buick Park Ave. and a Chrysler NY, were both assembled in the U.S. And the two most unreliable, a Pontiac 6000 and Isuzu Stylus, were built in Canada and Japan respectively. Recently, Chrysler's most reliable cars have been built in Mexico (the PT Cruiser and Sebring/Stratus) and its least reliable (the minivans and now deceased LH sedans) were built in Ontario.
 
I think you need to keep in mind that modern auto assembly lines are highly automated and the reliability/quality factor is baked in long before the robots do their work. I.e., if your parts suppliers are good and the engineering solid, the car should be reliable - whether it's built in Canada, Mexico, the U.S. or Japan.

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