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Re: HHR Test Drive [p100] by poncho167
May 03, 2008 (5:53 pm)
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Replying to: p100 (May 03, 2008 8:19 am)

I have also driven both versions 2.2 L & 2.4 L and I thought they were pretty peppy myself. If you have read any magazine reviews they both come in under 10 seconds 0-60 which is considered pretty good and on par with other vehicles this weight. As mentioned a 6-cylinder car is not a good comparison. It can be like getting out of a Mustang and getting into a Corvette, no comparison. If you need more oomph you should consider the SS turbo model which does upper 14 in the quarter mile with oversized brakes, etc.
 
I wouldn't buy an HHR if I was an aggresive driver anyways because it is a great compact car commuter with above average mileage for its size and shape.
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Re: HHR Test Drive [dmathews3] by p100
May 04, 2008 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 03, 2008 10:41 am)

Actually, my Mazda 626 weighs about the same as the HHR, whose official curb weight is listed as 3,155 lbs (for base model). My Mazda has a relatively small 2.5 liter V6 which puts out 170 HP, which is in fact a bit less than the 2.4 liter HHR engine (172 HP). The max torque of my Mazda engine is 160 ft-lbs, and HHR 2.4 engine has 167 ft-lbs, so again, I think this a fair comparison at least at low speeds.
 
It is true that aerodynamics plays an important role in acceleration at higher speeds, but not so much at very low speeds. The HHR feels terribly sluggish off the line compared to my Mazda. Gearing has a lot to do with it I am sure, as the Mazda has somewhat lower gears (both vehicles discussed have a 5 speed manual transmission ). But the HHR is brand new and my Mazda has almost 200 k miles!
 
Anyway, I am interested in the utility value of the HHR, not its performance capability. However, I still like to have some acceleration potential in case I have to merge into fast moving traffic. And this is becoming a real problem here in Florida with quickly growing population. It really seems that aggressiveness of drivers is directly proportional to traffic density.
 
The SS model is definitely something to look at, but I can get a lot better deal on this 2LT 2.4 / 5 speed 2007, and leather seats are not available in the SS. And I do not particularly care for turbocharged or supercharged cars due to their higher maintenance requirements. Next to the SS, this version should be the most capable performancewise.
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HHR recall by p100
May 04, 2008 (7:19 am)
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What is this about the safety recall to install plastic pieces under the headliner because supposedly these vehicles failed the federal standards crash testing? I saw a 5 star crash rating for these cars for both front and side impact. And now there is a recall because they supposedly cannot meet the side impact federal standard (for models not equipped with curtain air bags). The 2008 model brochure specifically states that the 5 star side impact ratings is for vehicles NOT equipped with side curtain air bags. And now they have to rip off the headliner and stick on a few pieces of plastic to make them 5 star again? This is really pathetic. The GM credibility has just gone out the window.
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Re: towing behind motorhome [dmathews3] by laco
May 04, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 03, 2008 3:23 pm)

I have an 07 HHR with the Blue Ox baseplate, and tow bar. I also had the US Gear braking system installed. I'm convinced Blue Ox is the way to go, have had zero problems in the year the HHR has been the tow car. Once installed, its almost invisible on the car once you remove the removable tabs.
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Re: HHR Test Drive [p100] by dmathews3
May 04, 2008 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: p100 (May 04, 2008 6:13 am)

Just because Mazda says it is 170 hp or Chevy says theirs is 170hp doesn't mean either one is right. I can remember when a 427 Chevy was rated at 425hp for insurance reasons when on a dyno it put out close to 550hp. All you can do is take it with a grain of salt. Also even if they are both 170 then you need to facter in the trans gear ratios, and the rear end ratio. There is a lot of things making one faster than the other.
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Re: HHR recall [p100] by 62vetteefp
May 04, 2008 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: p100 (May 04, 2008 7:19 am)

What is this about the safety recall to install plastic pieces under the headliner because supposedly these vehicles failed the federal standards crash testing? I saw a 5 star crash rating for these cars for both front and side impact. And now there is a recall because they supposedly cannot meet the side impact federal standard (for models not equipped with curtain air bags). The 2008 model brochure specifically states that the 5 star side impact ratings is for vehicles NOT equipped with side curtain air bags. And now they have to rip off the headliner and stick on a few pieces of plastic to make them 5 star again? This is really pathetic. The GM credibility has just gone out the window.
 
The 5 star rating of the side impact test has nothing to do with the test that the HHR failed.
 
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/12feb20041500/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr- _2004/octqtr/pdf/49cfr571.201.pdf
 
Standard 201 requires a dummy head be hit against points of the inside of the vehicle to simulate an unbelted person hitting the interior. You are allowed so much HIC damage (see link). Since testing is not an exact process variation can happen and when the government tested the one hit (of many) it did not meet the requirement.
 
The side impact test simulates a vehicle hitting the side of the vehicle and measures various damaged points of the dummy. This is where they got a 5 star rating.
 
So, bottom line is to wear your seatbelt.
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Re: HHR recall [62vetteefp] by p100
May 04, 2008 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (May 04, 2008 3:33 pm)

Thanks, but still they have to do these modifications which means that if a buy a brand new 2007 HHR, it will need to have these plastic pieces installed and if this requires removing the headliner, the chances are they will never put it together again the way it came from the factory (depending on who does it). Can any Chevy dealer sell a new HHR without doing the recall service first now that these vehicles have been formally recalled?
 
What is involved in performing this recall work? All I could find is this: " Dealers will install a piece of energy absorbing plastic material to the headliner trim." This is not very descriptive and I do not know what exactly, if anything, needs to be removed first.
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Re: HHR recall [p100] by dmathews3
May 05, 2008 (2:35 am)
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Replying to: p100 (May 04, 2008 5:21 pm)

Chances are it will have already been done to the vehicles left on the dealers lot. When my son worked a summer cleaning up new cars he also would bring any new cars that had a recall to the mechinac to preform the recall on as parts flowed into the dealer. This was so the customer wouldn't be inconvenienced.
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Re: HHR recall [p100] by 62vetteefp
May 05, 2008 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: p100 (May 04, 2008 5:21 pm)

it will need to have these plastic pieces installed and if this requires removing the headliner, the chances are they will never put it together again the way it came from the factory
 
do not know the procedure but someone back aways said they had it done and could not tell.
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Re: HHR recall [62vetteefp] by p100
May 05, 2008 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (May 05, 2008 5:29 am)

I asked a service rep at the local dealership today - he said they need to pull loose the edge of the headliner, which is not glued, only snapped on, and insert plastic pieces under it. Takes about 1/2 hour to complete. I guess quality of work depends on the skill of the technician doing the job.

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