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#622 of 4030 Watch your dealing....went from $25600.00 to $28900.
Jun 11, 2006 (7:28 pm)
When I bought a 2006 RAV4 V6 Sport with Moonroof and JBL radio and Side Air bags and mats. Here is my story and I am to blame..I am 60 years and should know better. I was going to buy a Honda CRV and had a great internet deal. I was headed to the Pompano Honda Dealership and stopped by the King Toyota in Pompano as my son had just bought a Sienna and I cosigned for him and the finance manager said he would make me me a great deal. Well, I drove the RAV4 I4 and the V6 and fell in love with the V6. Well, we began the deal. They offered the car to me for $25600 which I thought was fair...they than offered me $11000 dollars for my Mazda ES Van 2003 and I said no. They than offered me $12500 and I still said no. The finance manager than walked away talking to "management on the cell phone. Red Flags should have gone off than but "I was in Love". He came back and said he would give me $13500 for my MPV and I said ok. Than we went into his office...here is where the "dealing" really started. He said he would sell the car at $25600 but there was a $585. dealers fee. I hesitated but than said ok...(I was in love). Than he did the paper work and the total was almost $29000. He had the extended warranty and oil change thingee and gap insurance...wow...I asked him if he was really selling the RAV at Dealers Cost and if I looked it up on Edmunds would I see the $25600. He said yes and that he couldn't view the internet on company computers it was locked out. Again, a "red flag" and I should have run...I signed and waited three hours for my car to be ready. This was Saturday. I went home and read all my paper work (I know that was stupid and should have done it at the dealer) I called Sunday and left a message with the manager to hold the deal. I would do my own financing and didn't want all the extras. NO return call. I called again Monday (Memorial Day) again NO return call. Tuesday I go to the dealership and find the manager. He said he didn't get my messages and because my credit was so good that the deal already had gone through and nothing could be done. I was upset, I felt and still feel that King Toyota In Pompano took advantage of me. (Yes, my fault) I did go back Wednesday and they removed the extended warranty and oil change thingee but would not remove the gap insurance and said that my payments would be the same...this I don't understand. I was lied to about the Dealers Cost and there is no way the finance manager did not get my messages. I love the RAV4 but if I could do the deal over again I would. Please beware, I thought a dealer like King Toyota in Pompano would be more professional and not like the traditional "used car salesman". It is my fault..but I feel I have been shafted.
#623 of 4030 Re: Watch your dealing....went from $25600.00 to $28900. [jimdrew]
Jun 11, 2006 (7:47 pm)
I truly feel for you, and it makes me really angry that there are people out there that take advantage of others. Until you actually DRIVE the car off the lot you are entitled to change your mind (legally). The dealers know that too, but they don't pass that information on to the consumer. Shame on that dealership. Pressure and intimidation is not an honest way to do business
#624 of 4030 $27,000 Out the Door
Jun 12, 2006 (4:18 pm)
Bought one tonight in Holland, MI (CrownMotors).
V6 Base, 4x4, tonneau, floor mats, roof rack, side airbags, 5 sp auto, + aftermarket heated seats (being installed as I write). Sticker price without heated seats 26,400. Heated seats cost about $650. My price $27,000 even, includes tax, title, delivery, license, and a full tank of gas. That beat everyone else in the West Michigan area by about $600. I'm happy.
#625 of 4030 Re: $27,000 Out the Door [discostu]
Jun 12, 2006 (4:31 pm)
Man that is a great deal. Wish you lots of luck!
#626 of 4030 Rav4 Limited 4x4, 4cyl
Jun 13, 2006 (8:35 am)
I found this forum after searching the internet for Rav4s as I just made a purchase myself and so far, my wife and I love the vehicle (all of 100 miles now, 10 to start from, the vehicle has only been a member of my family for 3 days).
After reading the posts, I feel we got a good deal on it as well. Barcelona Red Limited 4cyl 4x4, moonroof, roof rack, JBL 6 disc changer, all the airbags, dual climate control, carpet floormats/cargo area, rear cover, cargo net, the two poles with the netting (hammock thing), pretty much all the options except for leather, remote start and third row seat and of course the v-6.
MSRP was stickered at 27,809, out the door at 25,000(includes all tax, title, registration fees, etc totaled up to $1700). So I got the vehicle down to about $23,300 I did argue with the saleman about the delivery fee and he knocked it off the vehicle price. I told him I wasn't going to pay for a delivery fee if I was taking the vehicle right off the lot. Also got free state inspections for 5 years on the vehicle and the dealership offers a lifetime warranty on their vehicles as long as you have the service done at the dealership. I was scheptical about the liftime warranty and worried that it would cost $100 for an oil change, but they charge $26 for an oil change (cheaper than Jiffy Lube). SO I think I got a good deal on it. It took a lot of tough talking and me and the wife actually got up and left the dealership to walk toward the car twice and they chased us down in the parking lot and invited us back in. This was at Lustine Toyota in Woodbridge, Virginia.
The car is very nice to drive and ride in. I'm 6'1 and fit great in any seat. The back is very roomy and when I sit there, I have a good 6 inches between my knees and the seat in front of me. It is the right height, not too tall to get in (great for my vertically challenged 5' tall wife). She is very comfortable driving it as she test drove some other small SUVs and she didn't sit well at all in it and couldn't see well.
My folks used to have a GMC Envoy that I thought rode very well, the Rav4, being small, rides just as comfortably. I spent some time in a Jeep Liberty and there is no comparison to the Rav4 either in terms of interior room and smooth ride. The Liberty rode like a tank compaired to the Rav4.
I am very happy with my Rav4 and would certainly make the purchase again. I was a little worried that the 4cyl would be weak but it puts out as much HP as my 4.3 liter V-6 in my GMC Sonoma. Not planning on towing anything, so I am sure the 4 cyl will be fine for the driving that we do.
I did finance the vehicle through Toyota as I am currently saving for a downpayment of a home within 5 years and didn't want to use much of my savings for the vehicle. I did put down a 5k payment. I told the dealer at the start that I was not going to pay more than 400 a month so it worked out well. I will probably pay it off in three years though as toyota's interest rate is not exactly low (6.9%), but it's nice to know that if I can't make a huge payment one month (such as Christmas time), I am still in good shape.
Very happy with the price, vehicle, dealership.
#627 of 4030 Is this a good price????
Jun 13, 2006 (5:30 pm)
I just signed a cash (no finance charges) deal with Ron Carter in Alvin, Texas. Is this a good deal? A 2006 RAV4, Barcelona Red, 2WD, 4cyl for $21,825.00 (No Haggle Price-MSRP was $23,180) plus tax, title and license for a total drive out of $23,424.37 (including $1,364.06 sales tax, $59.76 vehicle inventory tax and $175.55 2-year State inspection, license, title and documentation fee). Total drive out off the lot is $23,424.37. This price includes the following options:
CD Cargo Area Tonneau Cover with net and poles $140.00
DR Black roof rails and crossbars $220.00
CN Cargo net $49.00
WT Window tint $149.00
TS Custom tape stripe $99.00
W1 Molded dash applique $389.00
MF Mud guards black $79.00
DL Leather seats $1,000.00
Total options: $2,125.00
The car is being held by ($500-refundable deposit to dealer) deposit at the Gulf State Toyota distributing center and will be shipped n/c to Ron Carter dealership. Leather seats will be installed by dealership by their contracted uphosltery company.
I had a really hard time researching the individual dealerships inventory one at a time on-line (in-stock/available/color/style/options etc...), so approached buying this vehicle with a secured deposit from their "port" inventory. My salesman locked a car in for me before the options were added on. This is a really good tip for perspective buyers because you get first crack at their regional inventory before "port" adds on any undesired options. Just ask your salesman about the "port" inventory and you will find many more vehicles to chose from, basically stripped and waiting for your personal choices. Very simple and very personalized to your specific tastes. Cars arrive at "port" almost on a daily basis and I was told I would get delivery in 4 days, not a long wait. So, is this price competitive? Ron Carter in Alvin Texas is 15 miles from the Houston area. Good luck shopping!
#628 of 4030 Base model 06 Rav4
Jun 13, 2006 (5:33 pm)
I got a price of $20,000 (non-negotiated)for an 06 Rav4 base model, 4 cyl with AWD. Does this sound like a good price?
#629 of 4030 V6 Base 4WD -w/tow prep > $24,708 OTD. Good deal?
Jun 13, 2006 (8:10 pm)
Looking for a white/taupe base V6, 4WD, with tow prep. Local dealer has one in stock and is wiling to sell at invoice + $95 service fee.
It breaks down as follows:
Roof rails+ x-bars
Floor mats/cargo mat
Whol Fin Res
#630 of 4030 Re: V6 Base 4WD -w/tow prep > $24,708 OTD. Good deal? [psmoss]
Jun 13, 2006 (8:32 pm)
Why are they charging you for dealer holdback? That means they are getting it twice. They charge for gas? TDA is advertising fees, right? If so, those are pretty high (and negotiable). What's Whol Fin Res? I don't think that's such a great deal. Any opinions? If you are on the east coast, check out www.fitzmall.com ... I've seen great prices there.
Jun 14, 2006 (3:36 am)
..is the dealer's cost..
They aren't charging him for those items.. He agreed to pay a certain amount over their invoice, and it is... what it is..
Every manufacturer's invoice price includes those items, they just don't break it down like Toyota does... That stated, the TDA advertising will vary by region..
Honda/Nissan etc. have holdback built into their invoice prices, as well... they just don't break it out..