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#2932 of 3967 Re: 2009 RAV4 Sport 4x4 model 4443 [thearchies]
by chuckfromli
Jul 25, 2009 (1:03 pm)
Veronica, I would walk away from that deal. I have just started searching for a similarly equipped RAV4, either Sport or LTD and either 4 cyl. or 6, I really don't care as long as it has the moonroof and leather. Granted, I have only looked at websites, but it seems that the 4 cyl. should be well under 27K, while the 6 is around 28K. This is for Long Island, NY and there are at least 4 Toyota dealers within 30 mnutes of me.
I would shop other dealers and try to get prices on line from their Internet Sales dept. Another tactic is to call and see if the dealership has a Fleet Manager. Call the fleet manager and tell them you want to fax over a bid sheet. Type up a sheet stating what you want, make, model, options. Give them a day or two and then call back and ask them to fax you their best price.
One thing I have seen dealers do, in regards to warranty work only, is to make you wait for work on your car if you didn't purchase it there. You have to get in line for repairs and wait until they finish all warranty work on cars sold by them. This was at a Pontiac/GMC dealer where I saw this sign in the service department. I believe the manufacturer pays them much less per hour for labor than a customer.
#2933 of 3967 Re: RAV4 security alarm [ecarbuyer123]
by chuckfromli
Jul 25, 2009 (1:07 pm)
An aftermarket alarm from a stereo/alarm store sholdn't cost more than $250 installed, unless you are looking for some type of upscale brand with more features.
#2934 of 3967 bought FWD base 4-cyl today
by tad44
Jul 25, 2009 (10:27 pm)
with extra value package and floor mats in the bay area:
MSRP $22,619
Cache Price $21,300
Rebate $1000
Trade-in (CARS) $4,500
So the cost of vehicle is $15800 (+ sales tax, DMV fee, etc.)
I think it's a pretty good price.
But I was probably ripped off by the finance guy.
I paid $1395 for 4 yrs (premium) prepaid maintenance plan.
Also paid $395 for alarm and $100 for 5 yrs theft protection (which pays $5000).
(BTW, what's Guarding alarm?)
Fortunately the maintenance plan can be canceled,
but the alarm and the protection probably can't.
This was my first new car purchase.
I did research the vehicle price, but I didn't expect the last minutes rip-off.
#2935 of 3967 On 7/25, fueleconomy.gov changed EPA estimate
by ecarbuyer123
Jul 25, 2009 (11:28 pm)
For two months or so, fueleconomy.gov had 1991 Toyota Camry V6 Auto listed for new EPA combined mileage as 18. Thus, the car qualified for cash for clunkers program. On 7/25, they changed the mileage to 19 and made it not qualified. Anyone noticed about this change?
#2936 of 3967 Somewhat Bad Buying Experience
by festivus
Jul 26, 2009 (11:05 am)
I have some buyer's remorse after my purchase. Got a 2009 Rav4 Limited V6 4WD w/ extra value package 1, towing pkg, and mats. MSRP was 30,400 or something like that.
Sales guy knew my wife fell in love with the car and knew we had $4500 coming for clunker, a 99 Rodeo. I should have known that the guy was a shyster when he offered me only $2300 for potential trade-in. KBB said $3200.
So he hit us with 29,789 price. I argued that 28,500 would be fair. By the way, I have never paid over invoice for any new car. He then fooled me with the extra value pkg explanation that the car was already discounted by $2000 with this package. Beware of this ploy. I don't know why I fell for it. I knew better but we really wanted the car. Maybe I was exhausted and hungry too. I settled on $29,500. Then I got the extended warranty, the one for 6yr/100,000k for $895. We've had some issues with our 04 Accord so we bit on it. We did get the $4500 clunker and the $750 cash and got a great rate on a 63 month loan from a bank. 4.5% I think.
Lessons learned: Don't let them see/hear your emotions! Don't let them know you have a clunker ahead of time! Don't make an impulse decision!
I cost myself at least $20/month by my calculations. Time to move on and never go to this dealer again. But I think that we got a great car anyway so at least that's something...
Jul 26, 2009 (7:24 pm)
Hi, I just brought a 2009 RAV4 Base Model with 3rd seat option and bluetooth wireless. MSRP $24,028 which including the value package discount which is standard on all base model. Anyway with the $500 loyalty, $1,000 college Grad. discount, and take the 3.9% 5 yrs. I paid $23K OTD... Was that a steal for me? I was quote at $23,800 at other dealer but this dealer LONGO Toyota got me for $23K OTD . Took me 5hrs just to nail it down to $23K. Overall I'm happy with the price. Anybody out there have/had a better deal than this? I'm from So Cal
#2938 of 3967 Re: RAV4 [kenleslie76]
by deepseabio
Jul 26, 2009 (8:23 pm)
Hi Ken, I just pursued a quote from Longo Toyota as well for a Rav4. My "lowest" quote and your OTD price have very similar dealer discounts. It looks like you got about a $2000 dealer discount (or maybe just a little less). That is effectively what I am getting quoted as well for a Sport model. So, this isn't a steal, but you are probably doing better than most.
In the San Diego Area, It seems that most are willing to come $2000 off MSRP but it is more difficult to get more. Toyota of Temecula advertises $2000 off MSRP any model and a couple others (e.g. Toyota of Poway, Bob Baker Toyota and Mossy Toyota) are offering discounts ranging from $2200 to $2800 off select base models (with few options). In each of those ads, the price applies to only a select few models (e.g. three at this price). I'm not sure if the discount will apply to any other cars, but I'm going to do my best this week to try and get similar MSRP discounts off a Sport model!
Anyone geting $2500 off MSRP (don't count rebates) in Southern California for the FWD 4Cylinder Sport?
#2939 of 3967 Re: RAV4 [deepseabio]
by kenleslie76
Jul 26, 2009 (9:51 pm)
Hello deepseabio, I got alittle more than $2,100 OFF MSRP. Remember TAX rate in different cities, county are diiferent since Gov. Swaz increase the tax well actually not him. It was us that voted for the increase. Anyway LONGO tax rate are 10.25% so it make a different. Not sure what's the rate in San Diego. On the Sport Model. I think I can get it for $24,000 OTD with the MSRP of $25,179. Without College Grab rebate. It look like $25K. Let me know what happen...
#2940 of 3967 Re: RAV4 [kenleslie76]
by deepseabio
Jul 27, 2009 (9:53 am)
Hi Kenleslie76,
Will do. Our tax rate is 8.75%, so yes, you did get more off MSRP than I had calculated (the difference being the extra tax). The tax rate reflects the city you live in, not the city of the dealership. So, if you live in a city with a 10.25% tax rate, then you pay that tax rate regardless of where you live.
You might want to try Toyota of Temecula, which is offering $2000 off MSRP any model and see if you can get them up to $2300 or so off MSRP. Then, bring the quote back to Longo for a match.
I'll let you know how my week goes.
#2941 of 3967 Re: On 7/25, fueleconomy.gov changed EPA estimate [ecarbuyer123]
by don_michaels
Jul 28, 2009 (7:02 am)
YES! This happened to my car as well. On 7/11/09, my 1991 Audi 80 Quattro was listed with 18 mpg combined, now it is listed at 19 mpg. I didn't know exactly when it changed, but you saw it change on 7/25/09, so mine apparently changed on the same date. Have you found any other references to these changes? Any other info?
Thanks, Don.