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Toyota RAV4, SUV
#2600 of 4032 Re: NY price 2009 RAV4 Ltd V6 EVP#1 [mazda626atx]
Jan 30, 2009 (8:20 pm)
Hey you are right the mrsp is the same price but your #4123 is much better with the leather seats compared to leather trimmed seats. I just came back from Hudson Toyota and test drove the RAV4 V6 Ltd, it is QY and not QZ. When I accelerate fairly hard, the engine sounds like a 4 cyclinder, like it is working super hard. I have Honda Accord V6 2003 with less hp (240 v. 268) and it sounds so much smoother. I told the salesman, and they looked confused/ surprised. If the RAV4 sounds like that, I will not get it.
I also had an appraisal on my car and they gave me only 2/3 of the Edmunds trade in value. I left and told them that I will check with Plaza Automall. Plaza Automall gave me the same price of $27,990, but I have to check the appraisal value for my car. Anyone want my car??
#2601 of 4032 '09, V6, 3rd Row, Tow Prep, base model
Jan 31, 2009 (11:44 am)
A salesman at a RI dealership told me the following regarding a 09 V6 4WD base model with 3rd row and tow prep. Interested to see if this guy's a straight talker:
1. There was a price increase of around $246 on the RAV4 from Toyota, so the Invoice/MSRP prices of some comparably equipped vehicles will be different, depending on how long they have been sitting. Older vehicles (still 2009s) which haven't sold will still have the cheaper, older prices - before the price increase.
2. The difference between Edmunds listed invoice for this vehicle and his "official" invoice ($427 more than Edmunds lists) is due to the fact that his figure includes a $350 "Toyota Advertising Fee",he called this a "TDAA" fee. He said this was not negotiable and all dealers pay this directly to Toyota. The remaining $77 I think he said was for floor mats. This seems to jive with Edmund's statement about advert fees: http://www.edmunds.com/about/feepopup.html
3. He quoted me $24,610 ("200 over invoice") for an '09 Base V6 w/ 3rd row & tow prep with 17" steel wheels. This includes the current $500 rebate and QW value package (Daytime Running Lights, Roof racks, Rear Privacy Glass). Alloy wheels bumps it up another $210.
Can anybody offer any feedback as to whether this guy is full of it, or whether this is the going rate, or a good deal? I am paying cash, no trade in. Edmunds invoice is $24,483 and TMV is $25,154.
#2602 of 4032 Re: NY price 2009 RAV4 Ltd V6 EVP#1 [vliu13]
Jan 31, 2009 (12:59 pm)
I DO NOT THINK THE LEATHER MAKES THE DIFFERENCE.
I have asked about leather trimmed and leathers seats and leather surfaces and I beleive all 3 are the same seats .
I think as the person above, states Toyota may have raised the price or the price is lowered on cars that are in stock for longer periods of time, or a combo of both .
I test drove a V6 and it was like a Ferrari. Good reason to actually drive the car you are going to buy before doing any paperwork
What exactly where the options on the Plaza Auto mall car and where are they located ?
#2603 of 4032 Re: NY price 2009 RAV4 Ltd V6 EVP#1 [mazda626atx]
Jan 31, 2009 (2:15 pm)
Ok I went to two dealerships today. Plaza Automall didnt have 2009 RAV4 V6 4WD QY TO CP BC (the same I am looking for in previous posts). You have to sign up and will take 6-8 weeks. You must go through internet quote because the salesperson I spoke in the dealership did not know anything. He said the 2008 is the same as 2009. What a joke.
I also went to Bay Ridge Toyota, and test drove the RAV4 V6 2008 (they have the same engine according to the salesperson). They had the 2009 (same specs I want) in another dealer (same owner). I gave them a price of $27,700 because they held my credit card and said if its approved then they will charge my CC as deposit. The desk salesperson came and told me they were losing money on the deal (about $800). They asked if I was doing financing or cash. I said cash if the financing wasnt what I wanted. I told them less than 2%. The desk salesperson was furious and gave me a lecture that it will be about 4-6%.
He did tell me that the title fee and motor vehicle are the same. I had a quote from Hudson Toyota in NJ and they charge me Title fee of $276 and Motor Vehicle fee of around $195. Doesnt that seem a little high? I remb when I purchase my 2003 Accord it was one fee of only $75 (transfer fee).
Plaza Automall: 2721 Nostrand Ave in brooklyn.
Testing twice with two differnt RAV4 V6, it was really loud. The salesperson said because it is a SUV, more weight, bigger engine, and more airspace under the car, so the engine is louder. Mazda626, you didnt think it was loud, more so than sedan V6? I havent tested another SUV V6, so I am unsure if the salesperson is correct.
#2604 of 4032 Re: NY price 2009 RAV4 Ltd V6 EVP#1 [vliu13]
Jan 31, 2009 (6:24 pm)
I think the car is louder than a sedan . But in my case I drive a 93 Merc Benz 420 SEL so there are not many cars that ride as nice and quit as that.
The ride was not much louder than my wifes MAZDA but I had the radio on and test drove it on the Palisade Parkway which is fairly smooth.
On the subject of price . I had the salesman at Queensboro print out the invoices of the cars at Fitzmall at 2 different locations and I have found out that the Nov delivery cars from Japan have base priced invoice of $28710 and a dealer cost of $24,473 just as Edmunds says.
Now the newer cars manufactured later and at least the Jan manufacture/shipping date are base car delear cost $24,751 which is $278 more than the older models.
Also the older models (Nov etc) have a TDA OF either $453 or $495 and as high as $520 on the latest shipping date .
So it appears the RI dealer was telling the truth when he said there is a raise in prices .
That explains why Fitz has 2 exact same cars at 2 locations : one for $28,116 and the other for $28,416.
Also in the invoice, can be the price of gas which varies for $7 to $15
But the RETAIL BASE MODEL 4WD V6 LIMITED remains at $27,810 while the dealer cost has gone up approx $300.
Does anyone think Toyota could get away with this in this environment or is this more creative accounting to confuse buyers?
I am confused now more than ever .
The bottom lne is my dealer is offering me cars in his stock or coming into stock for invoice price.
Does anyone believe aside from Fitzmall I can do better in the NYC area.
#2605 of 4032 Re: NY price 2009 RAV4 Ltd V6 EVP#1 [mazda626atx]
Jan 31, 2009 (7:28 pm)
Do not settle for anything less than $27,750 before tax and TTL for 2009 Limited V6 with QY BC TO FE MF CF-R. We are looking for the same model and that is what I was given by Hudson Toyota dealer with Plaza Automall saying they will beat the price. The only thing with Plaza Automall is you have to wait 6-8 weeks. Who knows if there are discounts then (Presidents Day). With Hudson Toyota, they want around $500 for TTL, which I find really high. If they knock it down to less than $200, I will most likely take it.
Jan 31, 2009 (7:30 pm)
I am just wondering,
How many dealers are on this site?
#2607 of 4032 Re: Dealers [vliu13]
Jan 31, 2009 (11:27 pm)
"How many dealers are on this site? "
Don't think you'll get an answer to that question.
#2608 of 4032 Re: NY price 2009 RAV4 Ltd V6 EVP#1 [vliu13]
Feb 01, 2009 (10:19 am)
My only problem is I want a particular color ( Black) and the ASH or as some call it STONE interior.
What color combos does hudson have in that exact configuration. My eyes are bleeding form looking thru the inventory of 3 local dealers to find that exact combo
The only people who has the exact car I want is Fitzmall in Chambers PA and he wants $28,116 and the car has been there since the end of November.
The newer cars are $300 more and I am going to try Hudson tomorrow and see if they have that exact car in stock .
Queens boro toyota wants $227.50 for license title etc $2381.59 for tax and $28437 for that car for a OTD total of $31,046.10.
I think Hudson is robbing you on TTLD and giving you a better price on the car.
I tend to not believe car dealers but will try Hudson 2morrow.
I need to get my car no later than 2 -3 weeks and would not like to give a deposit in any event on a car to be delivered later.
As to the question of how many dealers are in here? Do you think we are tipping our hand ?
As for your comment "Do not settle for anything less than $27,750 before tax and TTL for 2009 Limited V6 with QY BC TO FE MF CF-R. We are looking for the same model and that is what I was given by Hudson Toyota dealer " Is this for a car in stock ??
#2609 of 4032 Re: NY price 2009 RAV4 Ltd V6 EVP#1 [mazda626atx]
Feb 02, 2009 (6:15 am)
Yes that car is in stock at Hudson Toyota. I test drove it on friday. I believe it is Ash (95% sure beacuse it was at night). I also want that car but I am waiting for the dealer to lower the TTL to around $200 or less.