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Replying to: lablover2 (Jan 30, 2009 5:17 am) |
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Replying to: andy67 (Jan 29, 2009 3:49 pm) Sweet! The power of the internet!!! I'll expect my 25% cut in the mail...  Overall I think your deal is pretty good. I paid $21800 for essentially the same vehicle (2009 though) without the third row seat and the $30 dealer-installed alarm, and no rebate. What did you trade in? You only got $425... I got $1000 for my 11 year old Maxima with 130,000 miles, and I'm kicking myself for not selling it myself. How is the 3rd row seat? It didn't seem to me there was enough room to put another row of seats back there. My sales guy said "midgets and children", he was not too politically correct. 
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Replying to: vliu13 (Jan 30, 2009 6:26 am) Also the car I am looking at  Fitzmall is not the one with the 2929 vin. That one is cheaper and in PA not MD The one I am comparing to is BLACK/BEIGE LEATHER JTMBK31V69D004123 in MD for $28,416.00 The same MSRP $30,848 is $300 higher in MD versus the one with VIN 2929 in PA. I wonder if this is due to the fact that they have it in stock for a longer time , or because the shipping charges are different ? I would love to know the VIN # codes so I could compare manufacture date etc on different cars . As you can tell, I do not believe anything car salesmen tell me .
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Replying to: mazda626atx (Jan 30, 2009 7:36 pm) I also had an appraisal on my car and they gave me only 2/3 of the Edmunds trade in value. I left and told them that I will check with Plaza Automall. Plaza Automall gave me the same price of $27,990, but I have to check the appraisal value for my car. Anyone want my car?? 
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A salesman at a RI dealership told me the following regarding a 09 V6 4WD base model with 3rd row and tow prep. Interested to see if this guy's a straight talker: 1. There was a price increase of around $246 on the RAV4 from Toyota, so the Invoice/MSRP prices of some comparably equipped vehicles will be different, depending on how long they have been sitting. Older vehicles (still 2009s) which haven't sold will still have the cheaper, older prices - before the price increase. 2. The difference between Edmunds listed invoice for this vehicle and his "official" invoice ($427 more than Edmunds lists) is due to the fact that his figure includes a $350 "Toyota Advertising Fee",he called this a "TDAA" fee. He said this was not negotiable and all dealers pay this directly to Toyota. The remaining $77 I think he said was for floor mats. This seems to jive with Edmund's statement about advert fees: http://www.edmunds.com/about/feepopup.html 3. He quoted me $24,610 ("200 over invoice") for an '09 Base V6 w/ 3rd row & tow prep with 17" steel wheels. This includes the current $500 rebate and QW value package (Daytime Running Lights, Roof racks, Rear Privacy Glass). Alloy wheels bumps it up another $210. Can anybody offer any feedback as to whether this guy is full of it, or whether this is the going rate, or a good deal? I am paying cash, no trade in. Edmunds invoice is $24,483 and TMV is $25,154. Thanks, Noah |
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Replying to: vliu13 (Jan 30, 2009 8:20 pm) I have asked about leather trimmed and leathers seats and leather surfaces and I beleive all 3 are the same seats . I think as the person above, states Toyota may have raised the price or the price is lowered on cars that are in stock for longer periods of time, or a combo of both . I test drove a V6 and it was like a Ferrari. Good reason to actually drive the car you are going to buy before doing any paperwork What exactly where the options on the Plaza Auto mall car and where are they located ? TIA
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Replying to: mazda626atx (Jan 31, 2009 12:59 pm) I also went to Bay Ridge Toyota, and test drove the RAV4 V6 2008 (they have the same engine according to the salesperson). They had the 2009 (same specs I want) in another dealer (same owner). I gave them a price of $27,700 because they held my credit card and said if its approved then they will charge my CC as deposit. The desk salesperson came and told me they were losing money on the deal (about $800). They asked if I was doing financing or cash. I said cash if the financing wasnt what I wanted. I told them less than 2%. The desk salesperson was furious and gave me a lecture that it will be about 4-6%. He did tell me that the title fee and motor vehicle are the same. I had a quote from Hudson Toyota in NJ and they charge me Title fee of $276 and Motor Vehicle fee of around $195. Doesnt that seem a little high? I remb when I purchase my 2003 Accord it was one fee of only $75 (transfer fee). Plaza Automall: 2721 Nostrand Ave in brooklyn. Testing twice with two differnt RAV4 V6, it was really loud. The salesperson said because it is a SUV, more weight, bigger engine, and more airspace under the car, so the engine is louder. Mazda626, you didnt think it was loud, more so than sedan V6? I havent tested another SUV V6, so I am unsure if the salesperson is correct.
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Replying to: vliu13 (Jan 31, 2009 2:15 pm) The ride was not much louder than my wifes MAZDA but I had the radio on and test drove it on the Palisade Parkway which is fairly smooth. On the subject of price . I had the salesman at Queensboro print out the invoices of the cars at Fitzmall at 2 different locations and I have found out that the Nov delivery cars from Japan have base priced invoice of $28710 and a dealer cost of $24,473 just as Edmunds says. Now the newer cars manufactured later and at least the Jan manufacture/shipping date are base car delear cost $24,751 which is $278 more than the older models. Also the older models (Nov etc) have a TDA OF either $453 or $495 and as high as $520 on the latest shipping date . So it appears the RI dealer was telling the truth when he said there is a raise in prices . That explains why Fitz has 2 exact same cars at 2 locations : one for $28,116 and the other for $28,416. Also in the invoice, can be the price of gas which varies for $7 to $15 But the RETAIL BASE MODEL 4WD V6 LIMITED remains at $27,810 while the dealer cost has gone up approx $300. Does anyone think Toyota could get away with this in this environment or is this more creative accounting to confuse buyers? I am confused now more than ever . The bottom lne is my dealer is offering me cars in his stock or coming into stock for invoice price. Does anyone believe aside from Fitzmall I can do better in the NYC area.
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Replying to: mazda626atx (Jan 31, 2009 6:24 pm)
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I am just wondering, How many dealers are on this site? 
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