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Toyota RAV4, SUV
#2442 of 4032 Re: 2008 Rav4 Help... [cyclist_chick]
Nov 21, 2008 (5:26 pm)
I hope that you really enjoy the ride and still checking this forum for awhile. I got the spreadsheet ready and came to SM dealer tonight but it did not work out. Therefore, I would like to ask you again:
1) T.M.F (Toyota Marketing Fund) ~ $770. I removed this. Did you pay this fee?
2) PIO (Pre Install Option) Holdback? How about this?
3) 2% Holdback MSRP? I assume that this fee was taken out?
4) 1% Finance Fee. You said that this was taken out
5) Destination/Handling fee ~$740. The spreadsheet tells me it's required?
6) What is your Dealer profits %?
It would be great if you could list out.
They also asked your "last" name or last 4 VIN# & purchase date to match those options above and I was stuck because the manager could find "Chick" on the list? Would you please help. I learned that you were a new buyer but you picked up and close the business so fast. Thanks a bunch.
Nov 22, 2008 (9:43 am)
I have the answer to my own question . I just left a dealer and looked at the sticker invoice. They QY package at $1360 dollars includes 4 options that total $3360 and then it says $3360 minus $2000 buying incentive, making the QY $1360.
Three dealers that I spoke with, including Fitz did not know about this . Some cars have been shipped without this incentive (either QY or QZ ) and have a MSRP $2000 over the exact same car configured with the options listed individually.
Everyone beware . There are cars out there that were shipped without this $2000 incentive and they will try to sell them to unsuspecting buyers, especially seeing as how they do not know about it themselves.
So this is really a hidden $2000 incentive Toyota put on car, showing they are having a tough time selling them
Nov 22, 2008 (10:41 am)
I ended my quest for a 2009 Toyota RAV4 today, since dealers are not really dealing with these cars. I'm only able to get $400 over invoice and feel there are better deals to be made, and I don't like this "take it or leave it attitude", especially in this market.
I guess a Honda man will always a Honda man, and I'm fine with that!
#2445 of 4032 Re: 08 V6 LTD Texas [ntxtoyota]
Nov 22, 2008 (3:40 pm)
My car has the same config + Stow 3rd (~$600). In Houston, they asked for ~$26K (after $1K rebate) + TTL but I did not accept it. Probably you can have it around 25K + TTL after rebate. $25900 + TTL after rebate is not acceptable for 2008. Good luck.
#2446 of 4032 Re: RAV4 Keep It [kderobertis]
Nov 22, 2008 (5:22 pm)
My experience so far has been similar--although I would be happy to get $400 over invoice. I guess I just do not understand the business model. I don't get why dealers will basically insult you if you offer them $500 over invoice on cars they have sitting in a back, fenced lot not even offered for sale. Only the 2008s are being marketed. So what is it that causes them to turn down $1000+ profit on a car where there are no other buyers because they want to make $2000? I just don't get it.
Guess I need to read some more car buying tips.
#2447 of 4032 Re: RAV4 Keep It [kderobertis]
Nov 22, 2008 (6:34 pm)
Have you looked at Fitzmall for proof that PA MD dealers are selling 2009 cars under invoice.
Aside from that dealer , have gotten 1 offer for invoice , and another dealer at $350 ( Fitz) under invoice and a local crook that I suspect will not keep his word in some way or another offering $27,900 for invoice of $28,504.
Just in case invoices vary these cars are offered from $2500 to $2990 off MSRP . Where are you and how far from a reasonably competitive market ?
#2448 of 4032 Re: RAV4 Keep It [kkrtrek]
Nov 22, 2008 (6:38 pm)
Have you and everyone read my post # 2443.
I think there is an important revelation, there about a $2000 incentive that not everyone including salespeople are aware of.
Makes a big difference in invoice price !
#2449 of 4032 Re: RAV4 Keep It [mazda626atx]
Nov 22, 2008 (7:34 pm)
Yes, I read your post and that was not a factor in my dealings, but what I think these Toyota sales people are thinking, with GM, Chrysler and Ford all in trouble, it makes there products more desirable.
Now, I only buy Japanese cars, currently own Lexus and Honda, but like I said in the previous post, this "take it or leave it attitude" they are playing is not justified in these troubled times. Let's face it, nobody is buying big ticket items!
Even if I was to get a price at invoice or below, Toyota has lost me as a future customer, with the "holding strong" techique.
#2450 of 4032 Re: RAV4 Keep It [mazda626atx]
Nov 22, 2008 (7:42 pm)
Yeah, I've checked out Fitzmall. They are about $450 under invoice on the 4-cylinder, 4WD Limited I'd like--offering it for about $25,850 a bit better equipped than "mine.". Invoice on what I am considering is $26,000. MSRP $28,700. Best offer I have is $26,880, $880 over invoice and about $1800 under MSRP--although that is not the comparison I prefer. Not good enough. Actually, not good at all, in my opinion.
#2451 of 4032 RAV 4 AWD with 3rd row V4 or V6
Nov 23, 2008 (11:35 am)
I am looking for RAV4 with 3rd row V4 22275, where the invoice price is 22432 with options ...
I am also getting offers for RAV4 V6 with 3rd row 23500 MSRP, where the invoice is 24458 with options -
I am in DC- area ... I need the following information -
1. How are these prices? what should be a reasonable bargain?
2. Does it matter a lot in terms of power between RAV4 V4 and V6. Once in a while I will be using the 3rd row seat and I am only concerned whether V6 will make a lot difference in that case.