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Replying to: yash (Dec 15, 2008 7:00 pm) the union has a choice here....take the concessions and not wait until 2010 when they kick in anyway.....I believe it will all be tied to the TARP $$ regardless if the industry is to get the $$
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Replying to: pao (Dec 16, 2008 5:27 am) |
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Replying to: pao (Dec 16, 2008 5:27 am) be around to service cars... For how long? Some five years ago, there were three GMC/Pontiac/Buick dealerships in the ten-miles' zone around where I live. Now? Zero. Five years ago, I owned and valued a Pontiac Bonneville -- but I would not buy a Pontiac or Buick at any discount these days. The issue is not so much a quality -- but where would I service it? the small ones will close, the larger urban ones will survive.... Doesn't look like it's the case with Pontiac/Buicks, does it? All other things equal, the lower a make's dealers density, the lower the brand's attraction. And things are by far not equal, not to GM's advantage. When did you last see a person dreaming of purchasing a Buick? Chevy seems to be the only GM's brand with a meaningful chance of survival -- but I am not quite sure it will, either. No matter how much I love my current two Bu's, had I had to buy another car now, I doubt it would be anything American. To hell with my GM Card points, to hell with the discounts -- I have zero confidence that potential problems would be resolved in acceptable time and in a reasonable distance from home. (I am saying this as a delighted customer of three Chevy dealerships around now -- but one of these dealerships also bought a GMC/Pontiac/Buick business just three years ago... Took them about a year to shut it down -- no demand.) the union has a choice here....take the concessions and not wait until 2010 when they kick in anyway..... Oh, no, they don't. Not anymore. GM cars have to be given out for next to nothing in order to be taken en masse. This is not going to happen for various reasons, so the union will have to find another place to make their choices at. Ah, if only they fought for quality when it mattered, how much happier we all would be these days... (Here is some fresh enlightening reading on the subject: http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/12/15/who-is-at-fault-for-the-decline-of- -the-big-three.html)
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I'm in upstate NY and have been shopping for a car for a month. I have it narrowed down to a Sonata and a Malibu, but honestly was leaning to the Sonata, because I could buy the top of the line Sonata Limited for many thousand less than the Malibu LTZ. After speaking with a colleague, he recommended a dealer 1.5 hours away that had a listed a LTZ, 6 cylinder with moonroof for $22,500. After a phone conversation he said that they were going to sell the remaining three for $21,999. I had to drive out in that direction, so met with the salesperson and drove the car and really liked it, even better than the Sonata....$2000 dollars better, I'm not sure. I had been planning on a 4 cylinder, but the remaining three were 6s. I emailed him last night and offered him $21,500 , with 8% taxes plus fees $23500 OTD, I'm still waiting to hear. A couple of questions: - Is that a reasonable price? seems to me it is. - Is the jump to the Malibu from the Sonata worth the $1500 difference in price? - Although I like the drive of the six cylinder better than the four is the millage going to be a lot worse?
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Replying to: TomNY (Dec 17, 2008 5:02 am) You want 7k+ off a malibu, more for the higher models if at all. The Titanic's keel is out of the water, the props spinning , and the UAW wants to wait to "2010" to man the pumps. (with their ever present "stewards" in blue shirts and golf carts (paid for by the company of course) to slow the work down so as not to "overtax" the worker.) Democrats will feed the UAW your tax money for a year or so, along with their pension fund. (with the union dues going partly to the democratic party) and the vessel will hit bottom (no business model for consumer autos involving the UAW in any way can stand up straight) Unlike the banks who can repay their loans from the FED, the auto money will be a gift. Ah blue state politics. Good luck --jjf |
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Replying to: malexbu (Dec 16, 2008 9:12 pm) be around to service cars... For how long? Some five years ago, there were three GMC/Pontiac/Buick dealerships in the ten-miles' zone around where I live. Now? Zero. this my exact point of what is the problem...why does there need to be 3 of the same dealerships within 10 miles of one another....GM has over 7K dealerships, Toyota less than 2k if Im not mistaken....perhaps less..... Five years ago, I owned and valued a Pontiac Bonneville -- but I would not buy a Pontiac or Buick at any discount these days. The issue is not so much a quality -- but where would I service it? Again....too many models, too many frames that arent making $$ or are duplicates of others...GMC is Chevy rebadged....Buick....sells well overseas but not here, stay wtih the Cadillac line...Pontiac...make it the rear wheel drive niche muscle division the small ones will close, the larger urban ones will survive.... Doesn't look like it's the case with Pontiac/Buicks, does it? All other things equal, the lower a make's dealers density, the lower the brand's attraction. And things are by far not equal, not to GM's advantage. When did you last see a person dreaming of purchasing a Buick? Agree,,,get rid of the Buick in the US...keep it an overseas model Chevy seems to be the only GM's brand with a meaningful chance of survival -- but I am not quite sure it will, either. No matter how much I love my current two Bu's, had I had to buy another car now, I doubt it would be anything American. To hell with my GM Card points, to hell with the discounts -- I have zero confidence that potential problems would be resolved in acceptable time and in a reasonable distance from home. (I am saying this as a delighted customer of three Chevy dealerships around now -- but one of these dealerships also bought a GMC/Pontiac/Buick business just three years ago... Took them about a year to shut it down -- no demand.) I beleive GM will survive in some form....I just bought an 09 Cadillac CTS in Sept, but will have to slim down....Cadillac, Chevy, Pontiac and Saturn maybe? the union has a choice here....take the concessions and not wait until 2010 when they kick in anyway..... Oh, no, they don't. Not anymore. GM cars have to be given out for next to nothing in order to be taken en masse. This is not going to happen for various reasons, so the union will have to find another place to make their choices at. Ah, if only they fought for quality when it mattered, how much happier we all would be these days... wil be interesting to see what the UAW does under restructing of the auto companies if it occurs..
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Replying to: pao (Dec 17, 2008 12:33 pm) I am sure if you buy any GM car and GM survives , you will be able to get service at any GM dealership. I could take my Olds Aurora to any Chevrolet dealer and get it services after Olds closed. It was actually kind of nice because the nearest Olds dealer was another 5 miles away.
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Replying to: guss (Dec 20, 2008 7:59 am) That seems to be the most widespread opinion these days, and I can see a model or two in almost each one of the brands above -- a model that can give the brand at least a small chance of survival, e.g. Malibu and Silverado for Chevy. But Buick? Which Buick model makes that make a candidate for survival? Or you think it can be a winner in, say, China, without a single model being at least slightly ahead of the competition? Good-bye Saturn, Pontiac and Saab. Pontiac, on the other hand, has Vibe, G6, G8 and Solstice, which are, at least, interesting.
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Replying to: malexbu (Dec 20, 2008 4:29 pm) I think even if Pontiac goes away the G8 and Solstice will be transferred over to Chevy. I heard GM was selling it's stake in the joint venture with Toyota. So the Vibe will be discontinued. |
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Hi, Is $18500 OTD a good price for a new 09 Malibu LS base + side moldings + mats? MSRP is $21650. It's in California with 7.75% sales tax. Thanks a lot!
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