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Volvo XC70, Volvo V70, Volvo V70 R, Wagon
#119 of 390 Re: 2004 Pre-owned Volvo XC price [rubycar]
Dec 28, 2004 (9:15 pm)
From my observation, cars, used or new, in east coast tend to be more expensive than in Calif, where I moved from. About a month ago, I talked to a lady who finally sold her 04 XC70 with almost all options except Xenon for $27k at mileage 20k. At that time, there was another seller for a similar car asking for $29k but only 5k miles.
I know dealers charge more than private parties, but if you do a search in cars.com with 150 miles within zip 92677, you should be able to find some cars with similar miles and options (in Power Irvine Volvo) lower than your dealer's asking, if you can get the car back to the east.
If I were you, I'd hold the purchase. I think in winter XC is more in demand. Also, with more newer design of 05 XC70s, 01-04 should have more lower pricing pressure with time.
#120 of 390 Cost of moving a Volvo from one dealer to another?
Dec 29, 2004 (9:56 pm)
Can anyone shed some light on what I should expect a dealer to charge me when he has located a car that meets my criteria, but has located this car on the other coast, but will transport it to his dealership?
Since this car is not already on his lot, how does this affect his holdback?
I REALLY would appreciate some help from those of you in the "brain trust" .
#121 of 390 Re: 2004 Pre-owned Volvo XC price [rubycar]
Dec 30, 2004 (8:30 am)
Locally in my area, there are some 2004 XC70's with an Internet Price of $30,295. The price started at $34,995, and they keep lowering it. You could print one of these deals out and give it to your dealer as a bargaining tool. Look at www.volvovillage.com. This is in Clearwater Florida. The XC70 isn't very "hot" down here, so your dealer may bring that up.
#122 of 390 Re: 2004 Pre-owned Volvo XC price [bing330i]
Dec 31, 2004 (1:48 pm)
.... **From my observation, cars, used or new, in east coast tend to be more expensive than in Calif ** ....
Actually, it's the other way around, the miles is what does it ... Left Coasters will pay the same money for a 25k vehicle that a East coaster will spend on a 12k vehicle, the higher mileage is what the Left Coasters live with ..............
#123 of 390 Re: Cost of moving a Volvo from one dealer to another? [wyatt]
Jan 04, 2005 (3:01 pm)
Shipping a car coast to coast is likely to cost you significantly. I would try to have them search incoming cars in a 300 mile radius.
We bought a V70 at the end of the year in Silicon Valley. The car was transported up from the LA area (Irvine) and the price was $550 for one car going down and one coming up. Since this is not coast to coast, I assume your dealer will have to pay a few hundred more. If they do not swap cars, the price will probably be similar. Have them show you the quote from the shipping agent.
I believe the dealer initiating the deal has to pay for the shipping, but am not sure how exactly that works. The shipping did not influence my purchase price (MSRP of 41,855 sold for 37,000, which was $350 below carsdirect), so I am not sure whether the dealer had to really bear all of the cost. Also think Volvo dealers make 5-7% on the back end, so there will be plenty to make up for the shipping. When they buy a car from another dealer though, rather than trading, they loose some of the back-end and that makes the deal less attractive to them.
I did not get into the hold-back, since if the car is traded between dealerships, they have to pay the hold-back on the car that is traded.
Hope that helps.
#124 of 390 Re: Cost of moving a Volvo from one dealer to another? [calch]
Jan 04, 2005 (7:48 pm)
Thank you for sharing your experience and information. It will be of help to me.
#125 of 390 99 V70 Stick shift....
Jan 07, 2005 (2:07 am)
Howdy... I'm lookin at 99 V70 5-speed with 92,000 miles for about $7000. This is under blue book and the car seems in GREAT shape (would prefer leather, but stick is more important to me...) Any feedback? This will be my first Volvo and I'm counting on that "live forever" reputation of theirs! Thanks!
#126 of 390 Re: 99 V70 Stick shift.... [sugaree]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Jan 07, 2005 (6:22 am)
Since this isn't a new vehicle, you might want to post in Real-World Trade-In Values to get some feedback. Make sure you include all of the information about the prospective purchase, including your city & state.
Host, Future Vehicles & Smart Shopper discussions
#127 of 390 2 questions re: 1-Incentives and -Factory ordering a car
Jan 10, 2005 (6:50 pm)
Greetings everyone. I am trying to purchase a fully loaded XC70. The dealer tells me that he cannot locate one of these cars with all of the options I would like close by (east coast.) The few he could find would involve a transportation coast of about $1400. So, rather than pay for that, I am considering factory ordering the car.
My question about incentives---the dealer tells me that incentives in effect at the time the car arrives at the dealership would be honored, BUT, he could not tell me what those incentives would be. Apparently the current incentive program would not apply to a factory ordered car. So how in the world could we arrive at a purchase price? Also, are incentives applied against MSRP ONLY? I see all of these manufacturers offering incentives, but I do not quite understand how/where they are applied. Can someone shed some light on this?
My second question, factory ordering. Has anyone done this with their Volvo? I did it with my current car, a BMW, but at the time I purchased it, there was NO negotiating price, and there were no incentives, so the issue of incentives/negotiating never arose. The experience was pleasant. I even got a call to tell me what time the tractor trailer was pulling in the dealership, and saw the car off loaded; it was all wrapped up in shrink wrap. A very good experience. And fun; it was my first European car and all that.
Anyway, I'd love some feedback. I am vacillating between purchasing this car (XC70) or a fully loaded Pacifica. It seems that there are not all that many Pacifica Limited's either, but they are not nearly as scarce as a loaded XC70.
#128 of 390 Re: 2 questions re: 1-Incentives and -Factory ordering a car [wyatt]
Jan 13, 2005 (6:20 pm)
with incentives you should be able to get a price below invoice.
In our case for a V70, here are the numbers:
Invoice 38,750 (approximately don't remember exactly)
Buying Price 37,000 (including Advertising fees of $250 in our area)
With the factory to dealer incentives, the dealer gets the car by that much cheaper. With the $2500 on the V70s the effective invoice price for the dealer is approx. $36,250 (38,750-2500). So in our case the dealer still made about $500 on the front end of this car (37,000 selling price - 36,250 effective invoice - 250 Ad fee = 500). So make the incentives work for you. Check carsdirect.com or edmunds to see what prices are like in your area.
Regarding a loaded XC70, we had the same problem. We looked at XC70 initially, but my wife preferred fuel economy and ride of V70. In CA don't really need the AWD either. We really wanted a nav system and were surprised how few cars there were around. Dealer suggested that only 10% of Volvo buyers want a nav, so not many have it. In the end we got a car that was close, but did compromise on the equipment. Am surprised that most Volvos come so bare considering they are supposed to be higher end cars.
The dealer can also install many of the options, although some are prohibitively expensive. Our dealer would have installed the nav for $2500, but got estimates up to $4400 for it at other places, so cost really varies. We also have the upgraded stereo and with all the speakers, etc. dealer would have charged a ridiculous price. But dealer can install 10 CD changer in the trunk. So talk to your dealer and see what he can do. Dealer options have a huge margin on it. For example the dealer quoting us $2500 for the nav started at $3500. We did not really want dealer installed equipment, so had to search around a bit.
BTW, initially we shopped around for E-class and had the same problems, could not find a nav and color we wanted, so that seems to be a common problem. Just all the Japanese high end brands seem to have them fairly standard.