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#112 of 390 Re: 2005 XC70 Purchase Price--what do you think of this pricing? [wyatt]
Dec 24, 2004 (11:51 am)
It sounds like you WERE being a smart buyer. Unfortunately, Volvo keeps a lid on the manufacturer-to-dealer incentives, and the information is not widely available on the Internet. I know of only one other car-related site that reports them, which I don't think I'm allowed to mention here. How they get their information isn't clear, but it seems to track with what other buyers have reported.
The dealer has every right not to tell you anything about the incentive. However, if he doesn't tell you, or if he doesn't adjust his price accordingly, he runs the risk of your feeling "taken" once you find out. And that could mean bad word-of-mouth for him later. I'm sure some salesmen don't care about that, since many don't stay with the same dealer that long.
The incentive is a reduction from invoice price. So if the invoice on a car is $35,000 and the the incentive is $1500, the dealer's ultimate cost is $33,500, not allowing for advertising fees, etc. I'm not sure how the dealer is paid. I believe that he receives the payment from the manufacturer only after you buy the car.
I would extend my search to other dealers not in your town. Getting quotes from other dealers even if not in your immediate area is the best way to know if the prices demanded by the in-town dealer are competitive. If you're in a hurry to buy before Jan. 1, consider taking some time off next week (like the rest of the world) and do some serious haggling with other dealers, in person, by phone or by e-mail. If they're not too far away, you might consider purchasing from them, or using the information as leverage with the nearby dealer.
#113 of 390 Re: 2005 XC70 Purchase Price--what do you think of this pricing? [negative]
Dec 24, 2004 (1:31 pm)
It always "pays to ask". Your helpful response has made me prepare a list of out of town dealers, and I will be on the phone early Monday morning. Thank goodness, I have next week off and can shop around. I know that I probably should have done that first.
#114 of 390 Re: 2005 XC70 Purchase Price--what do you think of this pricing? [wyatt]
Dec 24, 2004 (2:57 pm)
Good luck, and let us know how much you pay.
I am waiting until January or February. I am betting the incentives will rise, because few people feel like car shopping then. I hope I'm right.
#115 of 390 Re: 2005 XC70 Purchase Price, Price Hike, Features on the 2005-good and bad
Dec 24, 2004 (6:31 pm)
But what about the $500 price increase that is coming 1/1/05? Does this not influence your decision as to when you will make your purchase? I do not need to hurry to replace my current car. I **thought** I needed to hurry to get my so called "good deal". There are 3 other dealers within 2 hours from my home, so I will be contacting them early next week and will see what they have to offer.
On another note...
Have you (or other forum members)test driven the 2005 XC70? I kept one overnight and had a chance to drive in daylight and at night, and in a rainstorm. The car handles nicely. I did not have a chance to play with all of the bells and whistles. But I did notice that the seat heater is very poor/has a weak heating element. I can barely tell it's on. I also noticed that the door locks do not automatically engage when you get under way. Is this an after purchase setting that you can opt for? And does anyone know if the locking mechanism has an audible beep/horn sound when opening or closing? I like this feature on my current car. Along with flashing tail lights, it has helped me find then car when it is parked in one of those gigantic parking lots at the airport, etc. I also noticed the "rain sensor" wipers are a bit weak, too. Not nearly as responsive as others have been on other cars. Can anyone comments on these or other features, both good and bad?
#116 of 390 Re: 2005 XC70 Purchase Price, Price Hike, Features on the 2005-good and bad
Dec 26, 2004 (7:04 pm)
The price hike will only affect vehicles ordered from factory after said date. Vehicles already on dealer's lots will not be affected. It's a risk, but there could be some good deals to be made at end of January. It will likely vary widely depending on dealers and regions.
As for the locking. First off, no, Volvos do not beep when you lock or unlock. If you can't find your car on a big parking lot you'll have to press the panic button to set off the alarm. Not nice to other people, but oh well...
Your dealer can set up the vehicle to lock its doors when you hit 10 or 15 MPH. This isn't something you can do yourself, dealer have to do it.
As for seat heaters and rain sensing wipers... Thos I know nothing about.
#117 of 390 Re: 2005 XC70 Purchase Price, Price Hike, Features on the 2005-good and bad [larsca]
Dec 27, 2004 (1:33 pm)
Thanks for your input, Larsca.
Today I got word from an out of town dealer that he could sell me an 2005 XC70 with the Premium, Climate, and Convenience packages and the car also has the Bi-Xenon headlamps. He is quoting a price of $39,052, minus the $1500 incentive for a final price of $37552.00. I think this is a pretty good price. Anyone care to comment?
#118 of 390 2004 Pre-owned Volvo XC price
Dec 28, 2004 (11:02 am)
Looking at pre-owned XCs in Central New York (Syracuse)and found a nice 2004 with Premium, Convienence and Climate package, 15K miles, white, for $33995. Initial "offer" from dealer was $32995. Then we offered $29995 (I know, low, but worth a shot!), they said no way could they get that low. Came back with $32700, then $32,500. That's where we stand. We really would like to be around $31. Is this unrealistic? Should we hold out? Salesperson keeps telling me she only has "hundreds" to work with and that's it. Any opinions?
#119 of 390 Re: 2004 Pre-owned Volvo XC price [rubycar]
Dec 28, 2004 (9:15 pm)
From my observation, cars, used or new, in east coast tend to be more expensive than in Calif, where I moved from. About a month ago, I talked to a lady who finally sold her 04 XC70 with almost all options except Xenon for $27k at mileage 20k. At that time, there was another seller for a similar car asking for $29k but only 5k miles.
I know dealers charge more than private parties, but if you do a search in cars.com with 150 miles within zip 92677, you should be able to find some cars with similar miles and options (in Power Irvine Volvo) lower than your dealer's asking, if you can get the car back to the east.
If I were you, I'd hold the purchase. I think in winter XC is more in demand. Also, with more newer design of 05 XC70s, 01-04 should have more lower pricing pressure with time.
#120 of 390 Cost of moving a Volvo from one dealer to another?
Dec 29, 2004 (9:56 pm)
Can anyone shed some light on what I should expect a dealer to charge me when he has located a car that meets my criteria, but has located this car on the other coast, but will transport it to his dealership?
Since this car is not already on his lot, how does this affect his holdback?
I REALLY would appreciate some help from those of you in the "brain trust" .
#121 of 390 Re: 2004 Pre-owned Volvo XC price [rubycar]
Dec 30, 2004 (8:30 am)
Locally in my area, there are some 2004 XC70's with an Internet Price of $30,295. The price started at $34,995, and they keep lowering it. You could print one of these deals out and give it to your dealer as a bargaining tool. Look at www.volvovillage.com. This is in Clearwater Florida. The XC70 isn't very "hot" down here, so your dealer may bring that up.