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Mazda RX-8, Coupe
Aug 13, 2003 (8:16 am)
Well....the relationship the dealer has with you has not started out well. I would let the dealer know this in a "matter-of-fact" way....tell them you are disappointed in them and expected more.
That said, tell them what you will do if things can't be resolved (either your down payment refunded or they deliver on the loaner). It's difficult for me to believe they don't have a loaner car. They have numerous cars on their lot and I'm certain their management team has access to cars that they use for personal transportation.
Whether someone else wrecked a loaner is irrelevent to your deal and has absolutely nothing to do with you. Why the salesman told you this and expected that you would even care is a little "slimy" sounding to me.
Don't talk anymore to the salesman or the sales manager. Only communicate with the General Manager or owner (if possible). Set up an appointment to meet face-to-face with either of them. Lay out the facts of the deal you had with the sales person.
If they still don't budge, repeat your statement that you're disappointed in the dealership and probably should terminate it if they don't stick to their "verbal" agreement.
Past that, you can go to small claims court and the Better Business Bureau to retrieve your deposit.
Regarding aftermarket accessories....I'd stay away from them. I get the sneaky suspicion that this dealer would do a lot of finger pointing if something goes wrong with any of the after market parts.
Mazda makes it a point over and over again in the owners manual that they don't recommend any after market parts for the car.
At $31,100, you are looking at a totally loaded RX8 from the factory with no NAV. Any of the other options you are looking at are port installed options.
Again, don't this had gone past the sales person and the sales manager. Deal with, at least, the General Manager.
#32 of 903 graphicguy
Aug 13, 2003 (8:54 am)
good advice. im sure they have a loaner to give me too. but they dont want to give me a loaner to use for 4 weeks. a couple days maybe but not 4 weeks. i really want this car. i like everything about it. if i go to another dealer i'll have to start the whole process again. but i dont want to be without out a car for 4 weeks either. i need to talk to the GM or owner. these other characters are blowing smoke.
Aug 13, 2003 (10:12 am)
I know it's a pain, but really, I wouldn't want to have any more discussions with your current dealer. I'd go to another dealer. Tell them of your plight. I doubt it, but see if they can get your deposit back from the previous dealer.
In all honesty, I doubt any dealer will give you a loaner for 4 weeks and the sales person committing to that as part of the deal was irrisponsible on his/her part. Let the General Manager know of the salesperson's promise. I'm sure someone's butt will get chewed.
That doesn't help you, however.
I'm not a lawyer, nor do I claim to have any legal background, but I think there are laws that protects the consumer regarding non-refundable types of deposits (unless it was for some sort of "custom" car...which the RX8 is not).
Totally understand about your enthusiasm regarding the car, however. It truly is special. That said, the first rule when buying any car is "don't fall in love with it". That only clouds your vision when you're dealing. Plus, it lets the dealer know he has the "upper hand" in negotiations.
Good luck...let us know how it turns out.
#34 of 903 RX-8 good in snow?
Aug 14, 2003 (3:30 pm)
Hi I am thinking about getting RX-8 but it would be my all year round car. I live in NJ so we get snow here in the winter. Anyone knows it the RX-8 is bad in the snow since it is RWD even with the 50/50 weight distribution. I have a 2001 Mustang which really sucks in the snow even with the traction control. Thanks Max
Aug 14, 2003 (9:05 pm)
i live in NJ too. the rx-8 has summer tires, is pretty light and has very little ground clearance. any snowfall over 6 inches is going to give this car trouble. but i'll take my chances. last winter was brutal and i made it through it with a 1997 eclipse GSX. it had all wheel drive which helped. i had a 1988 MR2 which was the worst ever in snow. if it snows i usually call into work and say i'll be in tomorrow anyway so i wont be driving it much in the snow.
Aug 15, 2003 (6:04 am)
Mazda did some winter testing in Japan in the snow. Although the results were sketchy, they found it would go in the snow. I think any RWD car would go in the snow with Trac control and Vehicle Stability. How well it does, will be more of a function of the tires.
I plan on getting some winter tires, however. Last winter, at least in southern OH where I live, was an anomaly. Usually, we get a couple of "dustings" of snow. I think the RX8 would be fine in that situation.
What's more promising is the fact that it has rained hard around here the past couple of weeks. The RX8 still stuck like glue to the road. Hopefully, that will be a preview of how it will do in snow.
#37 of 903 snow cars
Aug 15, 2003 (9:43 am)
I know what you mean about the summer tires & winter tires. I guess I would just have to get winter tires then if I though it. I know what you mean by 6in of snow not too many sports car FWD or not are not going to do good in snow. I was also thinking about getting 350Z, G35, Audi TT, Accord coupe V6, Celica. Winter time seems to be my biggest problem. Problem is that my wife wants me to get a FWD car which isn't as fun as the RWD. The RX-8 seem to have everything I need in once car for the price. Funny that works out with cars since I had a 1995 Neon with nothing in it which I think drove better in the snow than my 2000 Neon which is loaded with ABS & traction control. Max
#38 of 903 graphicguy
Aug 15, 2003 (9:54 pm)
well i finally pick up my loaner today. i called the GM thursday and he said he'd get me a loaner. i wore them down. the salesman said the car im getting is known as the barney mobile so i guess its a purple thing but at least i have wheels until my car comes in. the loaner is a protege.
#39 of 903 $450 under MSRP in CA
Aug 16, 2003 (8:39 pm)
I just went to a dealer and test drove the RX8. The salesperson was a young man so he told me go ahead take it to my limit. On 5 gear, I was doing 95MPH but felt like 85MPH- so fast and smooth.
After the fun drive, the sales manager who can make the decision on pricing offered me $500 of the MSRP. I didn't want the color so he ordered me a silver with Touring and Appearance package priced #30,350 (MSRP $30850)+ tax.
The larger than expected trunk space surprised me a bit. The Bose sounds really great. The seat is really comfortable. The passenger side legroom is narrower due to the heat shield under the car for the cat converter.
Anyone getting better price than $450 under MSRP?
Aug 16, 2003 (9:36 pm)
at this point anything under MSRP is doing something.