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Mazda RX-8, Coupe
#12 of 903 himiler and spare tire
Aug 05, 2003 (10:46 am)
himiler....you're right....the oil changes and tire rotations would probably cost more than I stated. $25 seems to be the going rate for oil changes and $20 seems to be the going rate for tire rotations (both using coupons). Figure in tax and the savings will be somewhere around a grand, as you stated. Now that I look at it, that's a pretty good savings. Figure the dealer's cost on all of that is somewhere around $600. They just bought a lot of "good will" for that $600. Of course, they are still making $2K on the car. That's probably the reason the dealer is only offeing it to RX8 buyers. It's also probably the reason they've sold more RX8s in my 'burg than any other Mazda dealer in the state (of OH). They are all sold out of their allotment for this year and are now taking orders for next year.
I can't even remember the last time I had a flat tire...it has to be over 20 years ago, so the issue of no spare wasn't a "biggy" to me. I'd rather have the trunk room and deal with the "inflata-flat" stuff, if it ever happens. Moreover, with the roadside assistance offered as part of the warranty, it shouldn't be an issue for at least 50,000 miles, in which case, I'll need new tires anyway.
#13 of 903 a surprise addition
Aug 09, 2003 (11:27 am)
Well, what started out as a "car hunt" about 2 months ago finally came to fruition last night.
My dealer called me last night to tell me that the mica red RX8 I ordered was scheduled to hit their store over Labor Day weekend. We started talking about colors because they only had the Red Mica and the Titanium to see when I ordered mine. While "small talking" with the Sales Manager, he said that they just got their August orders in and that the Red, Titanium and "Winning Blue" were his favorite colors. I told him that it was hard to tell from the brochure how the blue would look. Manager said if I wanted to look, to stop by "in the next couple of hours because it's being delivered tonight".
Since the dealer is within 20 minutes from where I live, I decided to check it out.
Got to the dealership and it was sitting right in front, polished, prepped, gleaming, waiting to be delivered. Started talking to the guy standing next to it as I pulled up. He ended up being the guy who ordered it and was just waiting for his financing paperwork to be completed. I told him that I had ordered the red, but liked to blue more since I had seen it in person. After a bit more "chit chat", the Sales Manager came out to get the guy. About 5 minutes later, I see the same guy rushing out of the dealership to his (old) car and drive away. Right behind him was his sales person saying "well, that sucked". Curiosity got the best of me and I asked the sales guy what happened. He said the guy coudln't get financed through the dealership and stormed out. Sales manager comes out, looks at me oggling the car and tells me "this one's available if you want it".
The color is stunning and since I now prefer the blue over the red, I tell him I like the car but I didn't want the NAV system. Sales Manager says "if you really want this color, let me see what I can do". He goes back in the dealership, comes back a couple of minutes later and says "I'll split the dealer cost of the Nav system with you if you take it tonite" (about $1,800). That means I spend about $900 more for the car than the one I originally ordered, but also received about a $900 discount from MSRP.
I don't think I could find a car more fun to drive for $32K (all loaded up).
If I could ever figure out how to post pictures here, I'd show it.
#14 of 903 Congrats!!!!
Aug 09, 2003 (12:49 pm)
Congratulations on your purchase graphicguy, that is one sweet deal! Most people would be happy just to get MSRP, and to get $900 off of MSRP is simply awesome.
I dont know how you would be able to post pictures here, so I cant help you with that. Hopefully some of the more knowledgeable folks around here can help you.
Again congrats, and happy driving!
Aug 10, 2003 (6:43 am)
I think there was more to the story.
I'm not privy to how the sales people and their managers get paid, but I got the impression that it would not have been a good thing to remove the winning blue RX8 from their sold list.
Apparently, the "original buyer" had told the dealership he had financing taken care of. When he came in and asked the dealership to do the financing, things got a little "hairy" since the guy couldn't get financed. He was probably turned down by all the other sources he supposedly had.
I think the sales manager saw an opportunity to turn "lemons into lemonande" and I was in the right place at the right time. Sales manager seemed like he wanted to keep the unit as sold more than he needed to get MSRP for it. By the time I had decided to buy the blue, the dealership was getting ready to close. So the opportunity to "re-sell" the vehicle the same day was gone. The sales person and the slaes manager stayed an hour and a half after closing so I could run home and get my check book.
As it was, the dealer still made a nice profit and didn't have to remove the unit from his "sold" list.
I also think it was important to the dealership to continue their practice of only dealing with pre-sold RX8s as opposed to having stock. The only one they have (outside of customer ordered vehicles) is the one their General Manager drives and the dealership uses for demo drives. From that one demo unit, they then sell units that they pick and choose from whatever is hitting the port to fit what the customers want.
I asked the Sales Manager what he was going to do with the one I originally ordered. He said he'd add it to his sheet of units potential customers to order from. He also said that since it was red mica, he'd have it sold before the weekend was over.
Another customer was taking delivery of a green one while I was there. I was curious about that color, too. It's more of a "greyish" green. I didn't like it, but I can see its appeal.
Sometimes I get lucky....not often, but sometimes!
#16 of 903 congrats graphicguy!
Aug 10, 2003 (7:51 am)
Absolutely, there was a narrow opportunity for the dealer to make a quick recovery by offering that one to you. He already knew you curious about that specific color, plus it was late so the motivation was in place. It sounds like you got a very good deal. Isn't great when the ball bounces your way for a change!
Here in OK...still waiting to see a RX-8.
#17 of 903 RX8 Touring & Appearance Pkg
Aug 10, 2003 (9:15 am)
The local dealer offer me $30,350+fees but MSRP is $30,780. Is it hidden FEE added up to be same as MSRP or the dealer trying to make me think I save $430 off MSRP?
Aug 10, 2003 (10:46 am)
blh....Yeah, it does feel good to have things go my way every once in a while.
I'm surprised that there aren't any around in OK. My understanding was Mazda had the national roll-out the 3rd week of July and that all of the first shipment of units, in all areas, had ertr delivered. Hang in there. These are special machines. The wait is worth it.
odycee...hard to tell what the dealer is doing. What kind of fees are these? IF they are charging $450 for transfer of tags, then I'd be suspect (considering my dealer charged me all of $30 to transfer my tags and that included the state transfer fee).
Still, MSRP is the going rate on the RX8 currently.
#19 of 903 graphicguy
Aug 10, 2003 (11:50 am)
to post a picture if you have an ISP you probably have some web storage space to upload files and pictures to. if not may sites offer free web space. then you just put an HTML tag in the body of the post like this img src="http://url-picture" enclosed in the < > characters. replace url-picture with a link to your ISP web space. im dying to see pictures of your new car in winning blue. good luck with it.
#20 of 903 graphicguy-upon further review...
Aug 11, 2003 (4:37 am)
I checked the local mazda dealers website, and according to the online inventory they had 6-7 in stock. I drive by the dealer yesterday(sunday-they were closed) and I only see one- Black 6 speed...fully loaded w/a MSRP of 33xxx. It was tagged- So I think it was the demo.
Unless these other cars were hidden somewhere...the dealer would only list cars that are on their lot, and not ones that they waiting on, correct?
Neat looking car! Can't wait to drive one.
Aug 11, 2003 (5:39 am)
Only a guess because I'm sure each dealer is different, but the ones they show in the "check inventory" sections list what cars have been delivered, not sold. If the dealer doesn't update their database with what's been sold and what's available, then the delivered units will be shown as available, even though they aren't.
My dealer takes about a week to update their "check inventory" sections. All of their units are pre-sold, so even though they show inventory, they don't have any available for purchase "off the lot".
My dealer now has two demo units. They said the Mazda urges them not to sell the demo units as they will be the only ones they get for a period of time. I don't know what that time frame is....maybe 3 months???????
I would think if your dealer has stock of the RX8 that they'd want to display them prominently in order to sell them. If not, then they probably either already delivered them, or have them in some sort of storage area awaiting delivery.
Sounds like the one you saw is totally loaded up with GT package and NAV....that's about the only way to get one to $33K+.
I'll look for some storage with my ISP. Thanks for the tip.
If you drive an RX8 and you're in the market for a car, my bet is you'll be an owner.