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#61 of 901 rorr by rxgreat Sep 04, 2003 (7:16 am)
<Why would you expect this to apply to someone <who HASN'T YET purchased the car?   because the dealer told me to come in before the 26th to sign the order form so i qualified for BOTH options then changed their story yesterday.   to answer your questions.   1. how do you know? where did you read this? 2. no i have not received it yet. 3. possibly. 4. no just cars that i have the buy back option on. 5. do a search on rx-8forum.com 6. do a search on rx-8forum.com 7. people all over the world that have the buy back option are going to return the cars for whatever reason they like. 8. true. 9. according to mazda i have 2 options.
#62 of 901 gbrozen by rxgreat Sep 04, 2003 (7:17 am)
first of all i already sold my existing car and then put the deposit down all before mazda offered the options weeks ago. i have been driving a rental for weeks now. so i had no intention of selling the rx-8 back. but my dealer and mazda both told me i qualified for the buy back and now the dealer is hedging their bet. its a matter of principle that i should be entitled to the buy back option. if they change their mind i may change my mind and take the deposit back. i have call into mazda to clarify all this.
#63 of 901 by kidevo1 Sep 04, 2003 (7:42 am)
rxgreat, Ask your dealer to knock $1500 off the negotiated price to offset the buy back/free maintenance option.   I think that would make it a fair deal, since you found out after signing any papers that the car has less then the advertised hp.   I recently checked the paper and a local dealer here in CT only has 17 in inventory.
#64 of 901 rxgreat by rorr Sep 04, 2003 (8:33 am)
1. I don't. Which is why my earlier statement began with "I would expect.....". Remember, the whole purpose of the buyback was for those who bought the cars with the assumption that they would produce the advertised hp (247hp) rather than the downgraded number (238hp). The purpose of the buyback was NOT simply for someone to have an extended test drive. Which is why the date for the buyback was set at 8/26/03.   It sounds as though you are trying to use the buyback program for something it was not intended for; an extended test drive. But now that the dealer is trying to tell you that you DON'T have two options (Mazda is telling you have 2 options? This is verbal from one individual; you don't have the official letter yet), you're getting your shorts in a wad and trying to back out. Okay, you've already sold your car. You did this, by your own acknowledgement, before this whole hp/buyback situation started. You would have already been in this 'bind' whether there was a buyback program or not. You've also said that the dealership was already offering you the $500/free maintenance. Wouldn't this pay for your rental IF YOU KEPT THE CAR?   But you seem to feel you are being taken advantage of since the dealer won't let you use the buyback program for something it was not intended for? What, is it your right as an American citizen to abuse the system? Why are you "entitled" to the buyback?
#65 of 901 Why are folks disappointed by mpg? by mazdafun Sep 04, 2003 (8:42 am)
It's not like they're not posted so they don't have a clue as to what they're getting into. I know the Hummer H2's figures weren't posted but why should the owners be surprised it gets only 11-12mpg on average? The thing is an ungainly, non-aerodynamic, massive gas-sucking machine.   Of course, if it's really far below the estimates, then that's another thing.   16mpg is not unlikely given a city estimate of 18mpg. I don't think the EPA city cycle is that representative of most urban stop-n-go commutes. The more time spent sitting still, the lower your fuel economy. My driving is mostly local. My Pro's city estimate is 25mpg. I usually get 30mpg. But I can get as low as 23mpg in mostly standstill rush-hour traffic, and that's being easy on the throttle and brake. When you're not moving at all, you're getting 0mpg. That's why I turn off my engine when I get stuck at a RR crossing (and I just got there right after the train started crossing). This is why hybrids shine in local traffic compared to highway traffic (new Prius is estimated to get 60 city / 50 hwy); they can turn off the gas engine when the vehicle is stopped.   I think the highway cycle is at a fairly relaxed pace as well. Must be around 45-50mph. I'll have to poke around the EPA site for this data.
#66 of 901 About My Experiences by carliker Sep 04, 2003 (8:43 am)
Concerning rxgreat, if he purchased the vehicle before August 26th, then he is suppose to receive both options...at least, that is what I was told. When I called Mazda corporation (before receiving my letter), the guy told me that people were purposely going out buying the car to get the $500.00 / 4-year maintenance deal. Of course, that wasn't the purpose, but Mazda set the date for cars being purchased before the Aug. 26th date... and it didn't matter what reason they had for buying the car, they had the options. However, in an Autoweek.com article, I read that the letter got sent to the 3000 people who had pre-ordered the car.      With my own experience, my car has performed rather well. The only concern I have is with the gas mileage. I use the car as a second car, just to drive after work and on weekends...and the MPG has been poor (for such a relatively large tank). I've read where that might just be the breaking in period of the vehicle, but I'm not sure. I don't drive the vehicle hard or push it into high RPMS. Most of the time, I keep it around 4000 RPMS or lower, so the gas shouldn't be used so quickly...especially when I don't drive it that much. The air conditioning or interior heat hasn't been a problem in the least bit. Matter of fact, the car cools instantly and properly. Much better than other cars I've been in so that must be isolated instances. The oil problems has to be isolated as well.        From the people who I have talk to, they have never heard of a manufacturer giving the options that Mazda has (mainly the buyback option). I got my car in July, and though I'm not totally unhappy with the RX-8, there is just too much going around that concerns me about the car. Anyway, if people can take advantage of the buyback option (no matter what reason), they shouldn't be criticized for it. Personally, I didn't realize the MPG shortage until I drove it for about a month. Obviously, test drives are worthless in that regard.
#67 of 901 In response to Mazdafun by carliker Sep 04, 2003 (8:51 am)
Mazdafun, I shouldn't actually see the gas dial move downward while driving just 10 miles.
#68 of 901 rorr by rxgreat Sep 04, 2003 (9:32 am)
im not trying to use the buy back program for an extended test drive. actually i dont have to try to back out. mazda's position is if a person put a deposit down before the 26th they could get their money back so no problem there. people knew about the HP issue before the 26th. i think mazda changed the HP on their website before the 26th and notified the dealers before the 26th. many people could have and probably did order the car or take delivery after hearing about this and before the 26th and use it for an extended test drive. thats up to them. mazda left a small window of opportunity there. i think mazda needs to post the qualifications for getting the buy back on their website.
#69 of 901 Rxgreat by carliker Sep 04, 2003 (9:45 am)
I thought you actually purchased the car before August 26th. I don't believe a deposit is good enough since you didn't actually buy the car. The dealer (or Mazda) would only be obligated to give your deposit back.
#70 of 901 Re: Why are folks disappointed by mpg? by superbone Sep 04, 2003 (2:06 pm)
>It's not like they're not posted so they don't have a clue as to what they're getting into.   They're posted as 18/24 right? Well, when I'm driving 100 miles a day with an 80/20 ratio of highway/city, I would expect to get better than 16-17 mpg. And that discrepancy really adds up over time. It's a real hassel filling up every 2.5 days at $30 a pop out here in CA.

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