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#169 of 899 modcon by kkollwitz Oct 23, 2003 (5:17 am)
Thanks for walking on the bad deal. BTW, here in Greenville SC, the RX8s are piling up on the dealer lot like Camaros in their last year of production.....
#170 of 899 Modcon by carliker Oct 23, 2003 (6:53 am)
You either have a great experience with a Mazda dealership or a really bad one. Your story doesn't surprise me at all. I preordered mine back in March and agreed to pay a price. When I went to pick it up, they tried to stick me with a rust protection package that would cost $600.00. At first, they said I couldn't buy the car if I wasn't willing to pay for that. I said I was going to walk and they eventually did what was right. I'm glad you walked. Salespeople can go back on a quote I believe as long as it's not advertised to the public -- so I don't know about the lawsuit (unless you were just kidding). It's just not professional and bad business!
#171 of 899 leases...buying by graphicguy Oct 23, 2003 (6:54 am)
Leases vary dramatically by financial institutions, credit ratings, out of pocket payments and even part of the country you live in with regards to residuals and money factors.   Although, past RX7s hold their value extremely well, I don't know that there are enough out there on the used market that anyone can make a prediction for the RX8.   rroyce, the resident guru over at the "Real World Trade-in Values" thread has said he's seen a few used ones at the used car auctions. He says they are all selling at or near MSRP.   Dealers don't keep stock very long as they are sold within 24-48 hours of them hitting their lots. Some dealers are still filling pre-orders. Trying to find unsold stock using Mazda's WEB site is hopeless since they don't update it regularly. As an example, my particular car is listed as available at my dealer even though I took delivery of it 2 months ago.   I've heard of "Great deals" from some postings here, but whenever you try to do a little research, those "great deals" seem to somehow evaporate.   Even seeing some "in-stock" units at dealers tends to be a crap shoot once you find out that most have been sold and are just awaiting prep and delivery.
#172 of 899 New Owners by smason1978 Oct 23, 2003 (6:57 am)
I picked up my RX8 (Manual, Grand Touring, Spoiler, Appearance, 6CD, Tint (dealer added) Nav) today using the Mazda S-Plan. All the dealers in St. Louis are taking it..and I guess thats because there are maybe 50+ total sitting on all the lots.   Just so others can have an idea of what I got.   My lease went through Chase Bank, not Mazda. 36 and 39 months had the same residual (54%). I took the 39 months (trade off was I dropped to 14k miles a year, which is still 45k total miles). Money Rate was .00219, about the same as a BMW 3 series...of course the residual is lower.   On a side note he mentioned that the Mazda lease rate was about .00285.   My only concern was that www.leasecompare.com was showing me .00202 money rates...but my money rate is close to the BMW and the difference is $228 over the life of the lease- so not a big deal.   Anyway, an overall great experience at Bommarito St. Peters. Ask for Gary Panus.
#173 of 899 fuel by audia8q Oct 23, 2003 (7:28 am)
sorry to jump in late on this...but I got a service bulletin from Mazda this week expressing the concerns they have with using less than premium fuel....expect performance to decrease and engine noise to increase substantially. Emissions output will also increase.
#174 of 899 audia8Q by graphicguy Oct 23, 2003 (7:41 am)
Not surprising....why people would buy a $30K car and then try to short change themselves by using less than required fuel grades in it baffles me.   BTW....I just got 27 MPG (actually it was 26.7 MPG) on my last all highway tankful with the cruise set at 75 MPH most of the way. I never run anything less than "premium".
#175 of 899 Graphic by carliker Oct 23, 2003 (7:53 am)
Premium should be used, but once in a long while, I'll put in a lower grade if gas prices go nuts like it did a year ago. I won't do this consistently, however. If I feel up 20 times during the summer, I'd do it maybe once or twice at the most. Sometimes I just hate how the gas stations just gouge people. It becomes a principle sort of thing. Bottom line, this is your second most expensive (and some cases the most), so you need to treat it as such.
#176 of 899 Some basic legal stuff by modcon10 Oct 23, 2003 (9:03 am)
Thanks much for the support -- I spoke to Mazda today and while they were pretty taken back by the situation, they indicated that there was little they could do.   Just to clear up any misconceptions about your rights in such a situation, here's my legal op (I'm a lawyer -- which doesn't make the info. below necessarily right, but it is correct to my knowledge).   If you receive an offer from a dealer, get it in writing and also get an expiration date written on the offer (good until MM/DD/YY). Save a copy of the offer. The good until expiration date will offer some protection against the old "bait and switch" routine.   If you elect to accept the offer, try to get a manager's signature or at least confirm the deal with the manager. A written agreement is best, but an oral agreement is also valid. A handshake with the manager confirming the deal is also very helpful.   At this point, you have reached a valid, binding contract with the dealer. That contract may only be modified by mutual agreement. In other words, if the dealer refuses delivery (my situation) or insists upon an "optional" service (carliker's situation), you have legal recourse. Despite what the manager may tell you, car dealerships do not get to breach contracts in our society -- really. Hope this is of some assistance.
#177 of 899 modcon by qbrozen Oct 23, 2003 (9:17 am)
so will you take any action? is the result worth the trouble? does taking legal action only force them to abide by the contract or do you get more out of it? of course, if it only allows you to get the car at that price, then its really not worth it because the dealership still gets the sale and you still "get" to buy the car.
#178 of 899 Modcon, gbrozen by carliker Oct 23, 2003 (9:24 am)
I would at least talk to the general manager at the dealership. Since you have something signed or quoted to you, the general manager has nothing to stand on at all. If the GM has any kind of customer relationship skills, you could probably pull off even a better deal. They are lucky you don't take legal steps!

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