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#793 of 842 Re: Fix your VW problems [orbit9090]
Jul 23, 2006 (1:46 pm)
but Honda has, and will begin selling new diesels in the US in a year or two
That's when I will give Honda another try. By the way I don't think Honda has a car in the 10 best selling cars of all time. VW has at least Two. The only car that has outsold the Golf world wide is the Corolla. Outside of the USA and Japan Honda does not sell that well. Americans are easy to sell anything to. I will say that Honda had a good run through the 1990s. I think they have had their share of lemons to suck the last few years. Just mosey over to the Honda discussions and search for fire and leaks.
#794 of 842 Re: Fix your VW problems [jefferyg]
Jul 23, 2006 (2:00 pm)
My Honda experiences: 1979 Accord (80k)/1982 Accord (95k)/2004 Civic (31k).
My VW experiences: 1970 VW Beetle (250k)/1979 Rabbit (95k) 2003 Jetta TDI 79k).
Quality wise the VW is head and shoulders above the Honda. Reliability wise for sure the Honda has a much better reputation than VW. My (limited to be sure) experiences have Honda to be way less reliable than the VW's, as I have WAY more miles. In addition if you have rust and winters as issues (not as much for sunny CA) :(the VW has been far more rust resistant than ANY Honda I have had. I currently have a Civic for inexpensive and cheap to maintain commuter transportation (I call it purpose full) over 250,000 miles seems to be of good value.
Jul 26, 2006 (5:57 am)
"Americans are easy to sell anything to."
If that's true it makes VW's sales slump even that much more dire.
#796 of 842 Re: Really [anonymousposts]
Jul 26, 2006 (6:49 am)
VW's sales slump even that much more dire
VW sales are up about 30% over last year this time. The Jetta is selling very well especially the TDI diesel.
#798 of 842 Re: Up 30% from what? [anonymousposts]
Jul 26, 2006 (7:48 am)
From your article:
Volkswagen is expected to report Thursday that second-quarter net income more than doubled to €809 million on sales of new models and the divestment of its Europcar rental unit, according to analysts
He is preaching doom and gloom to justify cutting 20,000 jobs. When your net income doubles in a quarter, it is hard to feel sorry for them.
#799 of 842 Re: Up 30% from what? [gagrice]
Jul 26, 2006 (8:09 am)
When your net income doubles in a quarter, it is hard to feel sorry for them.
That depends...if your net income doubled from $1 to $2, I think I'd still continue to feel sorry for you.
The article says: The Audi brand is the profit engine at the carmaker, accounting for nearly three-quarters of the company's €1.12 billion, or $1.41 billion, in net income last year, on €95 billion in sales. This means income is a little over 1% of sales...and 3/4 of that is from Audi.
Jul 26, 2006 (8:20 am)
German VW labor (probably management also) is living the NIRVANA lifestyle while the American (profit) numbers indicate it is flirting with disaster. Most folks, let alone most auto labor wishes they had (cradle to grave) high per hour wages, lifetime healthcare benefits, 6/7/8 week vacations, low hour work weeks (28 hours?, correct me if my memory of recent VW articles is incorrect) and large governmental and union pension ownership of shares and large subsidies at ALL LEVELS. I have also read that AMERICAN (my) 2003 VW products were sold at a LOSS. (which I personally have a hard time believing, being as how most of the American products are born in MEXICO) This is despite VW products being priced much higher than comparable Japanese products. So to the extent they need to get their costs DOWN, and RELIABILITY UP, they will experience continued and sustained pain.
Let me put it closer (as a consumer). As happy as I am with my Honda and Toyota products. I'd be happier still if they had the quality and quality touches the VW has. Of course, VW has the equivalent quality of (European)American FORD and Chevy.
Jul 26, 2006 (9:23 am)
"He is preaching doom and gloom to justify cutting 20,000 jobs."
But they are cutting 20,000 jobs ... much like GM. Honda, Toyota, and even Hyundai are adding jobs and production. Something still doesn't smell rosy in VW land.
#802 of 842 Despite their popularity among the young people....
Aug 10, 2008 (10:40 am)
Every VW Jetta, Passat or Touareg I have bought for people have been junk. Several of them have come back to me and I've been stuck with them. Oh, they drive nicely and have that german feel and all, but the windows don't work, the Air Conditioning is a joke, and it's noisy to boot, and the problems with them are endless. It's gotten to the point where I just refuse generally, to buy them for people in most cases. Unless the customer understands from the beginning that I am not standing behind the car, I did not build the car, and I am not going to be responsible for all the issues they may have encountered with the car, I won't by them and tell the customer to go elsewhere to get one. That's my experience with them, and it mystifies me that people still want them.