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Hi guys its fotorich. I had the heat from the vents problem with my 51 packaged c-6 standard trans convertible. While I was forced to sell my c-6 because GM refused to fix the problem, I sure wouldn’t believe or go by anything Consumer Reports had to say. Several years ago Dr. Bose, of Bose speakers, confronted Consumer Reports about a lousy review received by one line of his home speakers. He had a meeting with editors and was ridiculed and lambasted because he wanted to know their testing procedures. They refused to divulge any information about the tests and went into a personal attack on him. He sued Consumer Reports. In open court Consumer Reports actually admitted they do not do any testing. But hired “experts” to evaluate the products that were being scrutinized. As an example, they would contact a writer and hire him at $500 to do a report on four different manufacturers of speakers in the range of $800 to $900 each. Now do you think this writer was going to spend $3600 minimum to test speakers while receiving only $500. Yeah right. The writers report on the speakers was published with the stats taken right off the free brochures and not measured by him. Obviously this occurred with all their so called tested items including car tests. Believe it or not Consumer reports won the case. They argued that reports printed in their magazine constituted editorial opinion and was a right under the first amendment. They even had several well known car magazines editors say they would have to shut their doors if Dr. Bose won. Sorry guys but the emperor really doesn’t have any clothes.
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Replying to: fotorich (Feb 06, 2007 7:30 am) http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,955280-2,00.html or in the published Supreme Court transcript, here: http://www.oyez.org/media/item?type=audio&id=argument&parent=cases/1980-1989/198- - 3/1983_82_1246 Regardless of the outcome ( CU won their case, Bose lost ) there is reference by the Bose Corp. lawyer acknowledging significant testing done by CU. I see nothing to indicate any sort of admission that CU did no testing before the report in question. Or that anything like what you describe occurred. The crux of the issue is something quite different. I have Consumer Reports issues dating back for quite some time, and it is quite clear that they do, indeed actually purchase the products they test. Unlike every other consumer oriented magazine that tests cars. ( The others, including Edmunds, all request ‘loaners’ from manufacturers’ test fleets. ) I do not use Consumer Reports as my only source of information regarding cars ( C6 or any other ) but I do read their reviews and the results of their annual reliability survey. I truly sympathize that you had an unresolved service issue with your C6. But how is any of the ( factually unfounded, as far as a lunchtime Google search & read seems to indicate ) additional ‘stuff’ you posted here relevant? - Ray Very confused . . . |
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| It makes sense to refute/affirm any of CR's specific reviews of the C6 here, but a general discussion of CR's reliability/practices would probably draw us down a bumpy side road. While this discussion's interesting, it would probably be more at home in the News & Views Forum. | |
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I don't know if this has been brought up here, coming in so late to the topic, but there is a major discrepency about the shift quality of the manual transmission. In "First Drive: 2005 Chevrolet Corvette", Edmunds said: "The standard six-speed manual, however, is the big shocker here. The clutch is smoother and lighter, and the shift feel is — dare we say — "Miata-like" in its snick-snick shift quality. Even the shift knob is perfectly shaped." However, in the "Follow Up Test: 2005 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible", they say: "The long throws between each gear are only part of the problem. The real killjoy is the extra resistance — and excessive clunkiness — felt through the shifter as each cog is swapped. Thankfully, my young passenger is oblivious to such elements. Yet the stopwatch during instrumented testing was not. With the 2-3 upshift proving particularly challenging, we'd estimate a good two-tenths of a second were lost in that transition alone." Now which is it? The statement above certainly doesn't sound "snick-snick" and "Miata-like".... Hopefully, someone from Edmunds will read this, and explain how they came to such vastly different opinions of the same transmission.
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Replying to: wideglide (Feb 09, 2007 10:04 am) Editor_Karl used to respond to such questions. No longer, that I am aware of... Sad - I used to enjoy that Forum - a lot! - Ray Very curious about similar aspects of tests & impressions published here... |
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Replying to: fotorich (Feb 06, 2007 7:30 am) Btw, Bose, imo, sucks, always has, always will. Every Vette owner I know hates or, at best, is indifferent to the Bose sound system. Speaking of which, just drove a Chrysler 300 rental for a week: best stock sound system I've heard (but you gotta know how to tweek it, set the equalizer, fade, etc.). Had that sucker rockin'. 
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Coming back from 11 days vacation, my 2005 Corvette won't start. Battery was too weak. I got off the car pop up the hood to inspect the battery. I closed the hood. The door locked itself. The remote key would not work. Roadside Assistance sent two guys to jump start the car. There's power from the battery. Problem is the car would not take input from the remote key. Connection is gone. No way to start the car. Tomorrow the car will be towed to the nearest dealer.
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Replying to: exzur2071 (Mar 19, 2007 5:19 pm) But - Is this a 2005 Manual transmission car? If so, there is a well known problem with Dead Battery Syndrome with these cars. And, Chevy has a 're-flash' of the computer that supposedly corrects most of the cars with this problem. If yours is a manual, you sure need to have this done or the car will kill another new battery for you. This car (manual) is also supposed to be shifted into reverse before turning the ignition off, or it will kill the battery. Read the manual. As I said, don't understand all 'connection is gone', 'input from the remote key', etc. If the battery voltage is low, it probably will not unlock the doors with the remote. There is a way to get into the car without the remote unlocking the doors. Then open the hood. If the voltage is below 9volts, it definitely will not crank. If the voltage is probably below 11volts, it will probably start to 'confuse' all the electronics in the car. And there are a lot of electronic in this car. If you have a meter and know how to measure the battery voltage, and it is much below 12.6volts (normal voltage for a charged battery), you need to either recharge the battery or put a new one in it. If you 'jumped' the car, and drove it for a while (20-30 minutes??), it should have recharged it enough to restart the car. If not, the battery is not taking a charge and should be replaced. Of course, if the 'killing the battery' process is taking place, and you let the car sit for a while before attempting another restart..... But, this car, and battery, is approaching 3 years old. The battery may have just died from natural old age problems, and a new battery will set everything right. (But, if the 're-flash' has not been done, get it done.) |
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