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Re: Automatic mini-vans Re: Never had a Vette [smu1976] by starrow68
Sep 02, 2006 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: smu1976 (Sep 01, 2006 9:26 pm)

smu... "POOR RELIABILITY Do you disagree with Consumer Reports?"
 
That's just it, the press release said poor 'predicted' reliability, I'm presuming that means based on past data which by definition means from the base C6, not the new Z06. That was the reason the article said it placed lower than the winning 911, so considered it a major factor.
 
As to $70k cars on track, as has been pointed out, I see many well beyond that and I pass a few of them every so often with my under $50k C5. GT3's come to mind quickly but there are plenty of others not to mention a GT3 Cup car at a recent event. Lots of discretionary income here in Calif. so that may be unusual, but I can't know too much about elsewhere.
 
And yes, I did read your original post, it mentioned the Z06 and then talked about 2005.
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why...?! by jayelleseven
Sep 02, 2006 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: starrow68 (Sep 02, 2006 6:03 pm)

Is everyone taking consumer reports so seriously? They dont specialize in autos, they even had to change up their usual reviews/ratings jus for cars they had never (price range) touched before..!
 
   Reliability issues come with any vehicle, jus less likely with some. Some ppl complain about a car always being at the dealer while others have never even needed a wheel alignment...
 
   anyway, I hear the Vette is getting a new engine in 2008? N this doesnt involve the new stingray or blue devil as some speculate coming out around the same time...
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Re: Automatic mini-vans Re: Never had a Vette [bolivar] by pony_pirate
Sep 02, 2006 (9:24 pm)
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Replying to: bolivar (Sep 01, 2006 11:02 pm)

Nonsense. I can outshift, out-accelerate any automatic, anytime, anywhere.
 
Wha? Indy and NASCAR racers use auto? No? Then why not?
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Re: Never had a Vette [smu1976] by smu1976
Sep 02, 2006 (9:42 pm)
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Replying to: smu1976 (Aug 31, 2006 8:57 pm)

This is my orginal post, nothing about a 2005 Z06. Don't proclaim to be a car "expert", but have had enough sports cars in my 50 years to be able to post on a forum.
I do agree, CU does favor the vanilla cars and the high end is not rated well, but if you read the article and please do read the article before commenting it does compare other high end sports cars, actually nothing below 46K. I would imagine we all read all the auto rags, from MT, CD, Autoweek, Automobile, R&T, etc. Yes, super high end, you will get simlar performance Auto versus Stick, but this forum is not about those cars. You will not find that with the Vette (see auto versus manual performance) and if you get it (an automatic) with the Z06 Vette your doing some great work in your garage, cause they don't make it (kinda ends that discussion on this car for auto does it not). If you like the automatic in the other Vette's, it fits your lifestyle, buy it and enjoy, thats not my message. My message is your not getting an AUTOMATIC IN A Z06, as the S2000, or VIPER. They have not found an automatic that will handle that torque, nor is there a demand for these cars with auto's with it. They sell fine, they are niche cars that don't effect the bottom line of GM, Honda or Dodge with there actual sales revenue anyway. You may want to answer this question though, why is there no AUTO with the Z06 Vette? One final thought, would not Vette owners on this board (read about 50 post on the thread) be so much better served by GM with a 50K plus car with a little better warranty than the Chevy Cobalt? Can't they give you girls and guys 4 years 50K miles bumper to bumper without bucking up more $$?. Is the Vette the worst warranty in the over 50K cars? Why? See Buick, Caddilac, Saab divisions with much less expensive cars, but 25% better warranty coverage. Maybe a lesson from Hyundai to be learned here? Owner satisfaction goes way up when you ain't got to pay for repair (South Korean Proverb). Have a good and safe holiday weekend, whatever you may drive and lets be thankful we can all choose what we like and afford to have fun.
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Re: Automatic mini-vans Re: Never had a Vette [pony_pirate] by smu1976
Sep 02, 2006 (9:44 pm)
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Replying to: pony_pirate (Sep 02, 2006 9:24 pm)

I think some believe paddle shifters from some auto makers without a clutch is what is on the high performance cars.
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The Fewer Controls, the Better by pony_pirate
Sep 03, 2006 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: smu1976 (Sep 02, 2006 9:44 pm)

I know the new Lexus has a paddle shifter, but to me this represents part of the overall trend of luxury European cars, BMW and Mercedes included, to have computers and gadgets take control of the car from the driver. That's fine for a big fat luxury sedan, I guess, but, imo, is anathema to the purist driving experience of a true sports or muscle car.
 
I want to drive, not have some computer try to do a better job than I might or might not be able to.
 
Most of the time, I even disable the traction control on my Mustang.
 
I don't even want a navigation system: too distracting; ruins the simplicity of the dash (high-tech nerdy look); and if you don't know where you are, you don't need a $1700 GPS system -- take out a $4 map.
 
Also, auto adds weight to a car, detracts from gas mileage.
 
The only advantage I can see to auto is that once in a while it frees up a hand.
 
Personally, I've shifted all my life and feel much more comfortable with manual, feel I have more control, than with an auto. I can downshift on curves, hills, in emergencies, etc. With manual, I can drive soft, at low RPM, hard at high RPM, or anywhere in between. And I really don't like auto, especially on take-off.
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The pirate speaks the truth by toquinho
Sep 03, 2006 (9:44 pm)
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Thanks pony pirate for speaking the gospel. Manual is essential to the driving experience.
 
I bought my '07 Corvette with manual transmission, without a computer screen and without extra crap... er... I mean gadgetry. My upgrades were the 2LT interior (for side air bags) and Z51 for suspension and gearing.
 
But its a personal matter. Different strokes for different folks. And I do concede that when I test drove last year's M3 with the SMG transmission, I was pretty excited. It was a little like a video game. Gears available at the touch of a button. I can see that it would be intoxicating after getting used to that type of driving.
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Wildly varying 0-60 times? What gives? by toquinho
Sep 03, 2006 (9:57 pm)
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btw., why is there such a wide range of 0-60 times for the C6? Maybe that's true for all cars out there and I'm just more aware of it with the Corvette. But I've seen 0-60 times listed between 4.1 and 5.1 secs.
 
That's an outraggeous difference. 25% swing! And that 1 second is the difference between a really fast car and an exoctically fast car. 5.1 is marginally better than a supped-up, $35k Japanese 4 banger (STi) or some quick V6s (350z). 4.1 is $100k ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche Carrera S territory.
 
The 5.1sec slow pokes are the numskulls at Consumer reports (I think -- I was flipping through a mag earlier today). They posted 5.1 with a non-z51 convertible. Undoubtedly, that's the slowest possible C6. btw., they also advise buyers to avoid the "overly harsh ride of the z51 package". I like their maintenance info. Very handy. But woe be the day I go there for driving excitement advice.
 
The 4.1 and 4.2 times were posted by Car and Driver (I think...) in their 2005 reviews. And I believe Chevy claims 4.5 0-60.
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Edmunds... 5.23 sec 0-60?? by toquinho
Sep 03, 2006 (10:40 pm)
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Our discussion group hosts posted the slowest 0-60 time ever. They managed to reach 60 in 5.23 sec with a non-z51 when they were comparing the Corvette to a Carrera S. btw, they got the Porsche to 60 in 4.48 sec.
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Re: Wildly varying 0-60 times? What gives? [toquinho] by jayelleseven
Sep 04, 2006 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: toquinho (Sep 03, 2006 9:57 pm)

chevy claims 0-60 in 4.1 with a 6speed manual with Z51. They claim 4.3 for a non Z51 6 speed. I read it on another forum.
 
  but YES I WANNA be a Baller and do 4.1!!
 
   As far as real world results, they are ALWAYS slower and who knows how many trials magazines do cuz sometimes they achieve really good times.
 
   As for the guy that got the Z51 with 2LT, did you get a good deal? thats exactly what im looking for-- coupe!

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