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Re: Allocation, etc. Re: Test Drives [rayainsw] by starrow68
Aug 30, 2006 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Aug 30, 2006 8:38 am)

Ray, for the full quote:
"This then continues to keep them at the top of the supply chain when the new models come out and they get top dollar ... "
The big dealers were getting MSRP for the first year of the new c6 model, which for them is top dollar. Then as the model ages, as you note, they discount to keep up their allocations and not sit on inventory. The cycle is long but that gives them good return over the long haul, I presume. Mid volume dealers, like Fichtner in Montana, goes with MSRP or just $1k off early on and then matches the big people during the run while picking up a few extra units from places that find themselves with inventory going into winter and want to unload it. That's how he built a respectable allocation.
I agree with you about research, that's why I didn't buy local and got our second one for almost $12k off at the end of the C5 run. That might be when I get a C6
Randy
 
PS Thanks for the GMID input, I didn't really understand it compared to supplier discount, etc.
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Re: Never had a Vette [defrit2000] by smile1017
Aug 31, 2006 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: defrit2000 (Aug 28, 2006 2:30 pm)

The best way to test drive the Vette is to get on the mailing list on GM's website and specifically state that you are interested in the C6. I was invited to their demo event that had Vette's on demo. The 6-speed has a great shift (not too short/long). Only thing I had to learn was that it has a quick clutch. It shifts smoothly between 1-2-3, but the test track was too short and did not get to go into 4th. Either was I love this car and plan to get one soon.
Jayelleseven, I know how you feel. I am a 27 year old CPA here is SoCal and no dealer would give me the time of day when I showed up at the dealer and was looking at the one Vette in the showroom. Good thing I had a connections with the owner of the dealership. Well I plan to buy in about a year with museum delivery, 6 speed convertible.
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Re: GMID [vcheng] by vete07
Aug 31, 2006 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: vcheng (Aug 30, 2006 7:39 am)

Vcheng, I am serious about purchasing my first C6 and would really like information on how to get a GMID. In addition, any information on dealers that will accept them in the West Coast (I live in Washington). Or do I just call each dealer and ask them if they accept it? THANKS!!!
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Re: Never had a Vette [defrit2000] by smu1976
Aug 31, 2006 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: defrit2000 (Aug 28, 2006 2:30 pm)

D,
 
I am in the same situation. Have a 2001 S2000, 15K miles, silver/red interior, mugen hardtop. Thought I would keep for life but now interested in the Vette Z with the 505hp.
Have to say, these post are making me a little nervous though. My S has never once been in the dealer for a repair. I know most the happy owners don't post vs owners with problems. Anyway, keep me posted on your buying search (which is always half the fun for me). I am looking to buy another silver with red interior, but like the Honda, I won't pay over MSRP. Dealers in St. Louis wanted 5K over for the S2000 in 2001, I found one in Souix Falls, SD and paid $800 under sticker and they shipped it to me for $400 bucks.
Autoweek has many ads in the back for Vette's so don't get taken in by your local dealer.
Anyway, keep me posted on your decision. I am a manual transmission guy. Think automatics are for mini-vans. Not a physician, but have been in pharma for 30 years.
Best of luck to the both of us. I know I am paying double for the Vette, hope the quality, build, fit and finish are just par with the 32K honda?
 
St. Louis
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Automatic mini-vans Re: Never had a Vette [smu1976] by rayainsw
Sep 01, 2006 (2:49 am)
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Replying to: smu1976 (Aug 31, 2006 8:57 pm)

“ Think automatics are for mini-vans. “
 
You are not alone in that sentiment.
 
Corvette stats for MY 2006 indicate a LOT of Vette mini-van demand . . .
According to the Bowling Green plant web site.
Coupes built with the new A6 automatic: 10967 = 66.1%
Verts built with automatic: 8127 = 72.9%
More roadster mini-vans than coupe mini-vans – percentage wise.
( Z06 = 0 & 0% )
 
- Ray
Expecting to order a coupe mini-van within 30 days . . .
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Re: GMID [vete07] by vcheng
Sep 01, 2006 (3:57 am)
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Replying to: vete07 (Aug 31, 2006 7:42 pm)

Unless permitted by the host, I cannot post details here. However, please look up my address in my profile, and send me an email for details. I bought my first Vette three months ago, and couldn't be happier. I got a good price with no haggling, and the car itself is fantastic.
 
I can also give you useful pointers, such as courtsey delivery to any dealer you choose, and my personal impression if you are interested.
 
I will publicly stress that I am just a fellow car enthusiast like other forum members and not related to any aspect of car selling with any entity, so please take my statements with a healthy dose of skepticism..
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Re: Automatic mini-vans Re: Never had a Vette [rayainsw] by starrow68
Sep 01, 2006 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 01, 2006 2:49 am)

If you go back over many years you will find that 60% auto's is very common for the Vette. After being in it for just 5 years I find that the number of owners with bad knees that don't want a clutch is amazing. Not my problem so I didn't consider any thing but the 6sp in 2001 when I ordered. Good luck with the new ones and the future ones and don't forget to wave. Still enjoying the C5 ...
Randy
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Re: Automatic mini-vans Re: Never had a Vette [rayainsw] by smu1976
Sep 01, 2006 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 01, 2006 2:49 am)

Buy what you like, don't let one guys posting get your shorts all bound up there junior. Don't be ashamed you got an automatic, enjoy it. No need to be so defensive. I have many automatics in my lifetime, just not in a sportscar. I think you will find many end performance cars without auto transmission though. Plus, you left out the St. Louis Corvette statistics for auto/manual? Poor data analysis. Whats the gender breakdown? Got a lot of woman buying vetts or driving them? I am talking a car that a man drives. Ask Jay Leno if he's got an automatic in his vette, he would laugh at you, "Girlee man" There is a lot of enjoyment and handling of a car that a four/five or six speed gives you, but maybe your right and we should all switch to automatics for thats want the plant is building. Should we also all switch to Malibu's cause Chevy is selling more of those too. Should we all get blue ones because the plant paints more that color? Thats it, whatever sells the most, we all should buy. Lots of times it's simples engineering young fellow, a manual will handle the large HP engines much easier. Sure you can get your cruisers with auto, but start pushing the envelop of engine/transmission power and torque you have to go with manual. Maybe you need to see what they put in the big blocks back in the sixties and early seventies?
See any Vipers with auto, lets put that at a 100%. A Z06, nah lets go with 100% manual. See any S2000's with an auto, no, to much engine displacement to the tranny for an auto to handle. 100% manual. And Please, Don't think those paddle shifters are the same as in the Indy cars either my friend.
 
Anyway, that was a sidebar of my topic, so I go down to Elco Chevy (one of the largest Vette sellers in the Midwest) today, they say there is a two year wait list for the Z06, strange that I can go over to Ebay and buy one tonight with less than 10 miles on it, for less than over MSRP than the dealer wants? Then I go into the garage and talk to a vette mechanic. I ask him how about reliability, he says, stay away from the 2005's which have problems all over the place. He said that about 60% of the common problems were fixed in 2006 and he is hoping in a further reduction for 2007. Said he would wait at least two years before getting a Z06 before the bugs are worked out. I told him that my little S2000 has never been in the shop, granted its a 2001 with only 15K miles. He told me, don't even expect that with a vette.
I understand that, I think the car is more high performance, but when your talking a second or two difference, similar road test parameters and the fit and finish of a S2000, I think I will sit back and wait awhile. Then I arrive home a look at todays Consumer Reports dated October 2006; two cars rated POOR in reliability were the Chevrolet Z06 $76,730 and the Chevrolet Convertible $57,020. PG Though I love the car (I am sorry I prefer manual and do believe automatics are for minivans) and its your best performance for the dollar, I don't like sitting in a shop waiting room eating donuts and coffee. Consumer Reports also gave the Z06 thumbs down for fit and finish. To me, at over 50K, you need to get the fit and finish getting a decent grade, also the interior, though now better and different than my Suburban (have an automatic there), its still below par for a 40-70K car and no better than my Honda 32K.
Just my thoughts, I love the Vette, would like a Z06, maybe I will get one, but from the post, mechanic at Elco and Consumer's reports I will wait.
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Re: Automatic mini-vans Re: Never had a Vette [smu1976] by starrow68
Sep 01, 2006 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: smu1976 (Sep 01, 2006 5:44 pm)

"I ask him how about reliability, he says, stay away from the 2005's which have problems all over the place. He said that about 60% of the common problems were fixed in 2006 and he is hoping in a further reduction for 2007. Said he would wait at least two years before getting a Z06 before the bugs are worked out."
   Now you are talking real confusion. The Z06 didn't come out until 2006 so there are no 2005 Z06's. Since the C6 did have issues in 2005, that's ok since it was the first year of production and most know to stay away unless you are committed diehard, same would be true for 2006 on Z06. As to wanting same fit and finish you are doomed to be disappointed, it's getting better but what it's trying to catch up with is getting better as well. Then again even a 350HP stock C5 has more than can be useful on the street, unless you plan to take it to the track or do driving classes the 505HP/470torque are more likely to get you in trouble than not.
Also don't get why you say to not consider one off experiences here and then conclude that some mechanic and Consumer Reports are a good basis for a decision. Hummm....
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Re: Never had a Vette [smile1017] by jayelleseven
Sep 01, 2006 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: smile1017 (Aug 31, 2006 4:30 pm)

Aww man, you are 27 and they wouldnt pay much attention to you..? Damn. Well, I dont know if there will be a demo event soon enough but ill check it out. So I should contacted GM and perhaps ill be invited right?
 
    I think I will go to my local dealership and hope they at least let us sit inside one of them....

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