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Replying to: rayainsw (Aug 30, 2006 3:56 am) With Corvette it is not as simple as with most other cars. Dealers have allocations based on prior sales, if you didn't sell it before you don't get one now even if you have dozens of willing customers. So, it isn't a question of what is a good deal in the market, it is a question of what is best for that local dealer. If they only sell 6 to 12 per year and get impulse buyers then they know if you don't buy the next allocation it will sit for a month or so and someone will pay top dollar. It's only the large volume dealers that know they have to move all their allocations that have a need to really 'deal'. This then continues to keep them at the top of the supply chain when the new models come out and they get top dollar for every one they move through the lot. FWIW Randy
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Replying to: starrow68 (Aug 30, 2006 7:43 am) I am aware of the allocation issues unique to purchase of a C6. And I agree that there certainly are ‘small allocation’ dealers, with limited stock and few to sell each year. And there are clearly a ( relatively ) few dealers with very large allocations of Corvettes – and they typically have stock & can order with reasonable expectation of having the ordered car built quickly. The Dealers that fit into this high volume category, though, in my research, do NOT “. . .get top dollar for every one they move through the lot”. The ones I am aware of ( Les Stanford, Kerbeck, etc. ) actually offer significant discounts on their C6s – not selling them for “top dollar”, compared to dealers that try to sell their allocation for MSRP – or even more. Kerbeck, for example, I see is currently offering $4,500 off MSRP on in stock 2007 C6 Coupes – with a couple of dozen available at this pricing. A link on Les Stanford’s web site says they honor GMID as well as GM Supplier & GM Employee discounts. And I believe that discounts to ‘others’ are similar to Kerbeck’s. Am I misinterpreting what you wrote? My local dealer does not accept GMID, but my “GUESS” is that $3,500 to $4K off could be done on a 3LT A6 ( MSRP over $52K = what I want ) but perhaps a bit less on a 1LT w/manual trans. And a greater discount is likely for the remaining 2006s they still have. They currently have over 35 2006 & 2007 C6s in stock ( excluding Z06s ). Note that in some cases, at some dealers, obtaining the ‘best’ discounted prices require that you contact a particular salesperson. Likely because that person truly does specialize in selling Corvettes. My salerep does – and knows much more about the product that most typical sales dweebs. Though if you require a Tahoe at some time, that’s OK too . . . I have done a fair amount of research on the C6 and the purchase process. Some here may not find $50K to be enough money to bother being an informed buyer. I certainly do. In spending $50 to a hundred bucks on a small household appliance ( a small microwave or a toaster oven, for example ) I will typically spend a small amount of time to try to insure that what I choose will function as I want & not break Day One. Because of the inconvenience & time involved in replacement. At something approaching 1,000 times that amount, I am well motivated to do much more significant research to insure both that the item will be what I expect & that I pay a reasonable price – and that I understand the process to some level. Obsessive? Possibly. - Ray Trying hard to avoid even the slightest case of “buyers remorse” . .
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Replying to: toquinho (Aug 30, 2006 7:06 am) No intent ( on my part, at least ) to be mysterious. Personally, I happen to live across the street from a guy that has worked at the Doraville GM assembly plant, just North of Atlanta, for many years. I talked with him.... - Ray Not very mysterious... |
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Replying to: rayainsw (Aug 30, 2006 8:38 am) "This then continues to keep them at the top of the supply chain when the new models come out and they get top dollar ... " The big dealers were getting MSRP for the first year of the new c6 model, which for them is top dollar. Then as the model ages, as you note, they discount to keep up their allocations and not sit on inventory. The cycle is long but that gives them good return over the long haul, I presume. Mid volume dealers, like Fichtner in Montana, goes with MSRP or just $1k off early on and then matches the big people during the run while picking up a few extra units from places that find themselves with inventory going into winter and want to unload it. That's how he built a respectable allocation. I agree with you about research, that's why I didn't buy local and got our second one for almost $12k off at the end of the C5 run. That might be when I get a C6  Randy PS Thanks for the GMID input, I didn't really understand it compared to supplier discount, etc. |
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Replying to: defrit2000 (Aug 28, 2006 2:30 pm) Jayelleseven, I know how you feel. I am a 27 year old CPA here is SoCal and no dealer would give me the time of day when I showed up at the dealer and was looking at the one Vette in the showroom. Good thing I had a connections with the owner of the dealership. Well I plan to buy in about a year with museum delivery, 6 speed convertible. 
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Replying to: vcheng (Aug 30, 2006 7:39 am)
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Replying to: defrit2000 (Aug 28, 2006 2:30 pm) I am in the same situation. Have a 2001 S2000, 15K miles, silver/red interior, mugen hardtop. Thought I would keep for life but now interested in the Vette Z with the 505hp. Have to say, these post are making me a little nervous though. My S has never once been in the dealer for a repair. I know most the happy owners don't post vs owners with problems. Anyway, keep me posted on your buying search (which is always half the fun for me). I am looking to buy another silver with red interior, but like the Honda, I won't pay over MSRP. Dealers in St. Louis wanted 5K over for the S2000 in 2001, I found one in Souix Falls, SD and paid $800 under sticker and they shipped it to me for $400 bucks. Autoweek has many ads in the back for Vette's so don't get taken in by your local dealer. Anyway, keep me posted on your decision. I am a manual transmission guy. Think automatics are for mini-vans. Not a physician, but have been in pharma for 30 years. Best of luck to the both of us. I know I am paying double for the Vette, hope the quality, build, fit and finish are just par with the 32K honda? St. Louis |
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Replying to: smu1976 (Aug 31, 2006 8:57 pm) You are not alone in that sentiment. Corvette stats for MY 2006 indicate a LOT of Vette mini-van demand . . . According to the Bowling Green plant web site. Coupes built with the new A6 automatic: 10967 = 66.1% Verts built with automatic: 8127 = 72.9% More roadster mini-vans than coupe mini-vans – percentage wise. ( Z06 = 0 & 0% ) - Ray Expecting to order a coupe mini-van within 30 days . . .
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Replying to: vete07 (Aug 31, 2006 7:42 pm) I can also give you useful pointers, such as courtsey delivery to any dealer you choose, and my personal impression if you are interested. I will publicly stress that I am just a fellow car enthusiast like other forum members and not related to any aspect of car selling with any entity, so please take my statements with a healthy dose of skepticism.. |
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 01, 2006 2:49 am) Randy |
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