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#746 of 914 Re: In Customer Support - GM Looses Big [tjohn] by starrow68 Jul 25, 2006 (7:59 am)
Replying to: tjohn (Jul 25, 2006 4:45 am) "WOW, I just finished reading the past dozen or so posts."   I hope your research went just a little deeper. Since there have been about 34,000 Corvettes produced in each of the last few years, the number of complaints here is surprisingly small. BTW, there are other complaints that don't show up here but do at the make specific boards.    Some times approach is more important than the facts, shouldn't be but life isn't always fair. I take my C5 to the track, some times 5 days in a month, some times 1 or 2 days. Last Friday it was just over 100 degrees and I was doing over 100mph at four points on a 2.5 mile track each lap, amazing what a robust design will stand up to. That has been the case for over 3 years on a 5 yr old car and the local dealer replaced my full ABS system a couple months ago under extended warranty. That is with a car that has an after market oil cooler, harness bar and 3" wide 6 pt belts hanging behind the seats. What does that prove, nothing, just like any other one off situation. Corvette has been getting good overall ratings for the past several years and is the best of what GM offers. Too bad you won't get a chance to try one out.
#747 of 914 Re: In Customer Support - GM Looses Big [tjohn] by tsy Jul 25, 2006 (8:48 am)
Replying to: tjohn (Jul 25, 2006 4:45 am) If you look at the boards for any of these other manufacturers you will find people complaining about all of them. But it is a very small minority of very vocal people (or if you're really cynical, people who don't even really own the car!). I myself have had problems with VW and Nissan, so GM is not alone by any means.   Even Consumer Reports, a publication very very Japanese Automaker biased, shows that the Corvette is one of the most satisfying cars to own. And it is.   I doubt every car GM makes is perfect. But then again, not every car Toyota makes is perfect either. It would be nice if every 'imperfect' car sold could be returned and replaced, like Nordstrom, but no car manufacturer in the world does this. It's just not feasable.   The C6 Vette is a great car and don't let a few disgruntled people tell you otherwise. Do the research yourself and you'll find the vast majority of people (even enthusiasts!) agree.   tom
#748 of 914 Re: Hot C6 [fotorich] by bigmike5 Jul 27, 2006 (9:34 am)
Replying to: fotorich (Jul 18, 2006 11:19 am) If you feel you are getting nowhere then Lemon Law and court are the place to go. Yes, there may be some up front fees, but you may be able to get those back from the court. I had a friend in law school do one in MA on a Buick. They played hard ball all the way until the judge told the lawyers he wanted this case settled and gave them a half hour to do it. My buddy got a loaner before the case was pending and his money back, plus costs, and he had put several thousand miles on the new car and a large number of miles on the loaner--no deduction for either. That was a long time ago, in a different galaxy perhaps, but when push comes to shove, if you have a case you will win.
#749 of 914 To Z51 or not to Z51 by jc71251 Jul 29, 2006 (11:16 am)
I am about to purchase an 07 C6 coupe. The dealer can get me one with the Z51 handling package immediately or I can wait and he will order me one w/o that package. This will be my daily driver and I don't expect to do any track time with this car. Having read some posts it sounds like the Z51 will mean faster tire wear and a significantly firmer/harsher ride. Correct? Replies to this message: brianapal (Jul 30, 2006 9:11 am) toquinho (Jul 30, 2006 9:20 am) jc71251 (Jul 31, 2006 4:25 pm) starrow68 (Aug 01, 2006 7:46 am) toquinho (Aug 01, 2006 8:19 am) pony_pirate (Aug 01, 2006 5:46 pm) and 1 more...
#750 of 914 Re: To Z51 or not to Z51 [jc71251] by brianapal Jul 30, 2006 (9:11 am)
Replying to: jc71251 (Jul 29, 2006 11:16 am) I cannot speak from experience but I ordered my 07 w/o the Z51 package. I also do not plan on racing mine. From my research the Z51 is a slightly stiffer ride, tires wear faster, and not as good a mileage.   You can go to the GM site and get into the gear ratios of the Z51, 6 speed, auto, and Z06. The Z51 ratios produce a faster car off the line but have a higher ratio also in 6th gear and thus not as good mileage if you are driving it any distance. I am sure that you will hear from those that race theirs that the Z51 is the way to go. But that was not my desire. I anticipate taking delivery the week of August 7. Good luck with your decision!
#751 of 914 Re: To Z51 or not to Z51 [jc71251] by toquinho Jul 30, 2006 (9:20 am)
Replying to: jc71251 (Jul 29, 2006 11:16 am) I also thought about this for a while. I too am not planning to race. I'm buying a corvette because its incredibly fast, is a good daily driver, looks great, is reasonably priced and has good resell value. For me, most important among those reasons is the "incredibly fast" one. How else can I drive a car 0-60 in 4.1secs? Thus, I decided to get the Z51 package. I'm lead to believe that the standard gearing results in 4.5 0-60 (the posted numbers from GM) and the Z51 results in the 4.1-4.3 posted by Car and Driver and Road and Track. 4.5 sounds pedetrian compared to 4.1. That's my 2-cents.   By the way, my previous '96 M3 had a ride that was harsher than the Z51 I test drove so I wasn't worried about the daily drive with the Z51. Replies to this message: jc71251 (Jul 31, 2006 4:25 pm) starrow68 (Aug 01, 2006 7:46 am) toquinho (Aug 01, 2006 8:19 am) pony_pirate (Aug 01, 2006 5:46 pm) starrow68 (Aug 01, 2006 7:10 pm)
#752 of 914 Re: To Z51 or not to Z51 [toquinho] by jc71251 Jul 31, 2006 (4:25 pm)
Replying to: toquinho (Jul 30, 2006 9:20 am) Thanks to you and Brianapal for two different points of view. I decided to go w/o the Z51 package. I am going from a 350Z that does 0-60 in about 5.3 to a car that does it in 4.5 seconds, so I will give up the extra .4 seconds for a little longer tire wear, smoother ride and better gas milage. Thanks again for the info.
#754 of 914 Re: Heat Problem [my5tvette] by terfidia Jul 31, 2006 (8:55 pm)
Replying to: my5tvette (Jun 22, 2006 1:26 pm) Chevrolet Customer Care Case: #1-421193860 Hot Air Vent Any other open cases on this same issue? What dealers has any forum member contacted? This is a repost of current A/C air vent blowing hot air worse than Chevrolet's See No Evil attitude and denials: "Thanks to all who have responded to my HOT C6. Let try and explain the problem again. After a day or more, and starting the car for the first time; the AC,fresh air and temperature controls having been left as follows: AC off (Snowflake with slash line) Temperature controls set at 60 Outside air open (interior recirculation off) Fan set at the second third or forth setting. When starting the car, and driving for a reasonable amount of time, under these circumstances the temp of the outside air coming in is usually not more than a few degrees warmer than the ambient temperature. This is true even when sitting in heavy traffic. Under these conditions the occurrence of extremely hot air blowing from the vents is rare. I repeat, rare but it has happened.    However if the car engine is stopped even if the ignition is only turned off momentarily or for an hour or so, with the comfort controls set as described above, the air coming out of the vents will rapidly climb to 100-120 degrees Fahrenheit. I do not mean to imply that hot air blows and than dissipates as one drives the car. I mean the hot air will continue to blow and climb as you drive at highway speeds. The only relief is to turn on the AC.    Now I do not like to drive with the AC on all the time especially on a nice day. It also robs the car of power and eats up gas mileage."   Being a Software Engineer and Investor maybe I'm picky but I'm so disappointed to hear of C6 problems, its cheaper to buy a Porsche 911!
#755 of 914 Re: To Z51 or not to Z51 [toquinho] by starrow68 Aug 01, 2006 (7:46 am)
Replying to: toquinho (Jul 30, 2006 9:20 am) " ... I too am not planning to race. I'm buying a corvette because its incredibly fast, is a ... "   Just a thought, but what difference does having a fast car make in a world of 65/75 speed limits? I know, I do the 0-75 romp myself and with after market exhaust it is even more fun, but it is really limiting and doesn't teach you much about the car. Now, I don't "race" either, street cars don't have the required safety equipment to race, btw. But I do take my C5 to Hi Performance Driving Events (HPDEs) and after more than a year of getting instruction feel I'm a better driver in the car, both on the track and off the track. It isn't racing but I do pass many other cars under the rules of the day, groups are different with their rules, and even with 350hp it is a lot of fun passing a Porsche that costs twice what I paid. OK, I admit I like to tweak some Porsche drivers, easy enough to do. I also get passed plenty and most recently I can think of a Nissan 240SX and a Civic, that's another story. Before you dismiss getting some instruction that is mostly available on track you might want to get more info. Randy Replies to this message: toquinho (Aug 01, 2006 8:19 am) pony_pirate (Aug 01, 2006 5:46 pm) starrow68 (Aug 01, 2006 7:10 pm)

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