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So please explain this to me. In the 2000 sports car comparo the Corvette finishes first and the 911 third. If you read the article you see that they are not so impressed with the 911. In a 2002 comparo of luxury sports cars it also finishes behind the Lexus SC and the MB SL. Cheap interior and rough ride etc. Then in the latest article it's the quintessential sports car and best by far in the head to head with the C6 Corvette yet it's character hasn't changed much at all. Maybe just a bit of an upgrade to the interior but still basically the same type of ride. Today I am sure that Edmunds wouldn't even mention an SC430 in the same breath. Seems like maybe different editors using different criteria?
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jan 03, 2006 7:12 pm) Hope this explains a little.  tom |
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Replying to: tsy (Jan 03, 2006 10:18 pm) I have only had BMW, Infiniti, MB and Lexus for the last 20 years and would never consider American for fear of quality and because there really is nothing other than the Vette that is interesting to me. I want to reward myself (50 years young) with a sports car and I'm beginning my search. I want a convertible and something with personality. I drove the Boxster and was not that impressed. I found the visibility somewhat poor and felt like I was sitting in a bath tub. I also found the engine noise to be a bit artificial as it felt like it was being pumped into the cabin. I may drive again though. I never drove the 911 but I guess I'd be looking at almost 100K for cab. and don't think I would go for that unless I just "had to have" after driving it. How do you like the vette for daily driver? Do you drive in bad weather? A bit of ice or an inch or two of snow? Which suspension do you have? How has the quality been? I hear that it can be hard to control with possible tail spins. I am not a hot rodder and like a car I feel is safe and I can control. The verts loaded are around 62 MSRP so I was wondering about the "value" factor. Used to be best bang for buck. I want a real smile inducer, so what's your take? Thanks for any input. |
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I have had a C5, 2002 coupe for 4+ years and going on 48k miles. I came at the Vette from the bottom end, Nissan and MG for most of 25 years so can't compare to higher end cars. For smile inducement, the Vette with only 350hp is just about tops, at least 0-60 up freeway ramps is still legal and really fun. I have taken mine on road racing courses for the past 3 years and it is more capable than everything close in price and pushes 911's that are close to double the price. Now for some of the down side. The S2000 with race tires is less expensive and faster on track, but a very tight fit, at least for me. The Evo and WRX can be very quick on track but as more ralley cars seem to get into roll overs more often that others I've seen and not what makes my boat float. On bang for the buck the Vette is hard to beat, I'd recommend looking for used ones, they exist and go for a few drives with and without sales people. Then I look on the internet for pricing before going to any local dealer. To answer a few questions, I'm in San Francisco East Bay, worst we get is heavy rain and mine is a daily driver and track car both. I tried driving something else to BART for a couple years but liked the C5 so much I decided I would not worry about exceeding the 6/60 extended warranty on mileage before time. I did come back from Nevada and had to do 30+ miles in a snow storm down I-80 and due to stability control had no issues going over inch or two of slush between lanes when necessary, slowly for sure but it would keep me straight and true. Love the car as a daily driver. The shop in Roseville is Motorsports Image, they have a web site. Ask for Mark or Terry |
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jan 04, 2006 9:09 am) |
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Replying to: starrow68 (Jan 04, 2006 11:45 am) I am surprised to hear you say that, given that I thought I also read a post of yours indicating that your Corvette is faster than a 911S and Boxster S on a track. As a former S2000 owner, I will always remain a big fan of the car. And as someone who has not (yet) been to a track, I claim no first hand experience. However, as much as I liked the exceptional handling of the S2000, the PASM equiped Boxster S I considered was even better, and if I am not mistaken, remains the top car on Road and Tracks list in the slalom. My 911S is not quite up there with the Boxster S, but according to my seat of the pants from 4,000+ miles, and the test reviews I've read, still equal to or above the S2000 in handling. Again, I am no track expert. But it would seem to me that even if the S2000 could keep up with the Boxster S and 911S through the tight curves, it would both have a significant disadvantage on the straights. The 911S has a 0-100 time of under 10 seconds, about 4 seconds quicker than the S2000. So what am I missing in my armchair track speculation?? Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 04, 2006 5:55 pm) |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 04, 2006 5:55 pm) I would guess a Z51 (and certainly a Z06) would leave the S2000 behind on a track. As good a car as the S2000 is for the money, it has too much of a deficit in power. But then again, it would also depend on the track too. I hope to get some track time in this spring and may be able to tell you more then. tom |
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jan 04, 2006 9:09 am) If you don't like the 'sitting in bathtub' position, you might not like any sportscar. They are all low to the ground, have poor visibilty, and feel a little claustrophobic. But you do get used to it rather quickly, and if you get a 'vert rear visibility will be great with the top down!  Sports car are not known for doing well in inclement weather- never used ours in more than rain where it is fine. Not likely to do well in snow or ice. Quality is up from past GM attempts, but fall short of Japanese or German build. It's not bad though, and certainly with the money you save you could pay for a lot of repairs. But I've not noticed anything in the way of rattles or squeaks- I was pleasantly surprised with the build quality (but then again, I wasn't expecting much, to tell the truth) The car has all sorts of electronic gadgetry to keep you from getting into trouble (stability control and ABS) which can save your butt if you do something stupid, as long as you leave them on. I was able to provoke the stability control on a turn and it brought the car right in line again. For the money, there's not much out there like the Vette. From Porsches to Ferraris to Vipers, they are all much more uncomfortable and not significantly better performers (compared to the Z06). What's amazing is you can get an 6spd automatic with paddle shifters that makes driving in traffic very easy, yet the car still moves when you stomp on the accelerator. Can't say the same for the above mentioned cars (except the 911 with tiptronic). Go and drive one (you will have to find a dealer that lets you, though) and if it puts a huge smile on your face like it did mine, you will have a hard time walking away without one. If you don't like it, maybe you're not really looking for a sports car but rather a sports coupe, something like an SC 430 or 6 series convertible or SL, all of which are more refined but not truly sports cars. Good luck! Hope this helps. tom
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jan 04, 2006 9:09 am) *)6 series cabrio *)Cadillac XLR (American, but believe me - it's exotic!!) *)Lexus SC430 *)Mercedes SL or CLK cabrio *)Porsche 911 cabrio Hope you like 'em |
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