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Ford F-250, Ford F-350, Ford F-150, Truck
Jul 26, 2008 (11:28 am)
the dealer could not produce the volume of advertising, number of admin staff, large lot, etc on the margins you just gave. Also, what about Dealer Hold Back and "Administrative Fees". Hold back is a considerable profit to the dealer. Here is the profit: 1. Ford/manufacturer make the car or truck and SELL it immediately to a distributor. 2. Distributor takes his cut (eg ford of North America) and sells to a dealer. 3. Dealer marks up the price (10-20% of total price) and sells to the buyer. 3. Salesperson takes a cut (varies depending upon dealer). 4. Buyer gets cut. Personally I'd like to see the auto industry "Delled" ( by that I mean go direct - like Dell computer) and just buy a 2008 Ford F150 Crew Cab for $16,000 (the manufacturer would make more profit and the buyer would get a great deal) and let manufacturer franchise the repair shops, parts and options. Ford needs to do something creative and We All Know that their current supply chain is not competitive.
#329 of 539 Re: Are you paying too much for that car - probably [carsearch2008]
Jul 26, 2008 (1:42 pm)
I think KBB uses MSRP as the basis for depreciating a used vehicle. Of course most people know that MSRP, especially with domestics is a joke. It's gotten to be like jewlery stores putting up 'Sale' signs - no one pays "retail" for furniture, jewlery, hotel rooms or cars these days unless it's something in tight supply.
I agree with your assessment that car dealers should streamline the buying process and cut out some of the selling layers that really add little value. At least let people have to option to avoid the sales pitch.
#330 of 539 KING RANCH PRICE
Jul 28, 2008 (12:06 pm)
A new 08' King Ranch: Sticker $43,895. Asking $31, 700. Any input?
#331 of 539 Re: KING RANCH PRICE [kgabe]
Jul 28, 2008 (3:02 pm)
Austin Texas - Maxwell Ford - a 2008 F150, 4x4 Super Crew (4 full size doors) NEW. Quoted at list of $38K and a sale price of $26,000 minus a few additional incentives that total, my guess, an additional $2000 off for a total purchase price of (guessing) $24,000. However this is not the out the door price.
Jul 29, 2008 (10:52 am)
WOW, that's one helluva price if one can actually buy it for that.
#333 of 539 STX 4x4 Deal in Denver 8/1/08
Aug 02, 2008 (10:44 am)
I got this deal on a STX 4x4, in Denver on 8/1:
2008 F150 4X4 SS S/C
4.6L EFI V8 ENGINE
ELECTRONIC 4-SPD AUTO O/D
REAR DEFROSTER & SHIFT ON THE FLY
STX Discount Package $2,000
Retail Customer Cash-$2,000
Ford Credit Bonus Cash-$1,000
Your Price $20,125
I did this with a real Z-plan. The employee pricing for everyone would have worked, but I used a z-plan to save $500 (document fee all dealers are charging here).
The buyout on my 2006 F150 lease was 22,400. I would have kept it if Ford was willing to accept a reasonable price in this market, but they would rather take a loss.
#334 of 539 Re: Are you paying too much for that car - probably [carsearch2008]
Aug 02, 2008 (1:13 pm)
Do you have access to MMR?
I am looking for the current used car price for the Taurus X (SEL & EB trims) 10-15K miles.
Aug 09, 2008 (10:13 am)
The $3000 owner loyalty is a big chunk of money. I do not own a Ford vehicle and I feel it is unfair to pay an extra $3000 just because I am not a Ford vehicle owner. I will not pay $3000 more than others and I will look elsewhere.
I do not understand how Ford is going to attract new owners with such unfair policy. Make loyalty $500 or less like Hyundai but to make it $3000 is for sure a stupid management policy.
#336 of 539 Re: Owner Loyalty [aalsherri]
Aug 10, 2008 (4:17 pm)
Read the news. Ford's problem isn't gaining new customers, it is keeping its old ones. Scream all you want, but its is a BIG incentive to stay Ford!
#337 of 539 Owner Loyalty
Aug 13, 2008 (2:43 pm)
The $3000 rebate got my intention. I was going to buy my first new Ford vehicle until I was told I didn't qualify for the rebate. I understand the use of the rebate to induce previous Ford owners to stay with Ford.
But, if you don't already own a Ford, I think the loyalty rebate will have the effect of potential customers looking elsewhere. It sure had that effect on me.
I agree with Allsherri, there is no way I would buy a Ford knowing that I was excluded from a $3000 rebate. It doesn't make sense to me.