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Any good deals on new '07 F150 or Mark LT? by cadencrue
Jul 15, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Is anyone running into many "new" 2007 models of these trucks, and have you found ways to get great deals on them? Since Ford has pushed back 2009 deliveries until late fall/early winter to clear the huge inventory of 2008s, I would think they would accept almost any offer for 2007s
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Re: Any good deals on new '07 F150 or Mark LT? [cadencrue] by aspesisteve
Jul 15, 2008 (1:04 pm)
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Replying to: cadencrue (Jul 15, 2008 8:35 am)

if you try to deal with Ford the old fashion way of face to face negotiations then be prepared to waste hours and days of your time with salesmen that have nothing better to do than to suck down cigarettes. (Yes I've worked in the business before)
 
Get on the internet and locate existing inventory out there and send e-mail out to all the dealers within a couple hundred miles of your home - request their best offer and wait to hear from the dealers who want to unload inventory. Make sure they know you're ready to buy, know what you want, and stick to your guns. End of the month works best. End of the quarter is even better. It takes work, but is worth avoiding the agrivation of having some joker offer you a couple grand under MSRP.
 
You should be shooting for something under invoice imo. Wish I could tell you a more accurate price to shoot for, but no one is posting much here these days.
Use the price leaders as a guide. One at this price might be a loss leader. "All in stock" means there's wiggle room.
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Re: [goblue1279] by ron48164
Jul 16, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: goblue1279 (Jul 04, 2008 11:28 am)

Where is this deal at?
 
2008 F150 4X2 SS S/C
4.6L EFI V8 ENGINE
ELECTRONIC 4-SPD AUTO O/D
MSRP $28,880
STX Discount Package $2000
Employee Price-$23,888.90
Retail Customer Cash-$2000
Ford Credit Bonus Cash-$1000
Owner Loyalty-$3000
Your Price $17,888.90
 
This is better than the lease buy-out on my 2006 XLT. If I can find this deal in Denver, I'll buy.
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Re: [ron48164] by aspesisteve
Jul 17, 2008 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: ron48164 (Jul 16, 2008 10:40 am)

that looks like a great deal, but how are you going to combine "retail customer cash" with employee pricing?
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Are you paying too much for that car - probably by carsearch2008
Jul 26, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Everything else I've seen written on the topic of what your trade in or a new or used car is worth is just about worthless. What is a car worth? Here are the facts on the resources and car indexes and car guides:
1. Kelly Blue Book: Available in paperback and Online and it's free but completely inaccurate and over priced - Dealers love to show you this value when you buy but not on trade in so much.
2. Edmunds: Easy to use and online access but not very accurate; more for informational purposes.
3. National Auto Research publishes the Black Book (NOT BLUE book) - Extremely accurate and this is what auto dealers use - Online access but it is expensive and primarily used by auto dealers.
4. Manheim Auto Auction publishes MMR (Manheim Market Report) - Online only and you must be a "state registered auto dealer"; VERY ACCURATE. Mention, "MMR price" and watch the dealers expression change and the best price emerge (or the dealer get mad).
Notes: I am pretty sure MMR and black book publish new car values also ( in fact im almost positive). Also, most dealers buy the cars at an auction (like Manheim auto auction) (the general public cannot attend the auctions) and mark them up to pay the sales reps commissions. Go direct when possible.
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Re: [goblue1279] by carsearch2008
Jul 26, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: goblue1279 (Jul 04, 2008 11:28 am)

Goblue,
the dealer could not produce the volume of advertising, number of admin staff, large lot, etc on the margins you just gave. Also, what about Dealer Hold Back and "Administrative Fees". Hold back is a considerable profit to the dealer. Here is the profit: 1. Ford/manufacturer make the car or truck and SELL it immediately to a distributor. 2. Distributor takes his cut (eg ford of North America) and sells to a dealer. 3. Dealer marks up the price (10-20% of total price) and sells to the buyer. 3. Salesperson takes a cut (varies depending upon dealer). 4. Buyer gets cut. Personally I'd like to see the auto industry "Delled" ( by that I mean go direct - like Dell computer) and just buy a 2008 Ford F150 Crew Cab for $16,000 (the manufacturer would make more profit and the buyer would get a great deal) and let manufacturer franchise the repair shops, parts and options. Ford needs to do something creative and We All Know that their current supply chain is not competitive.
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Re: Are you paying too much for that car - probably [carsearch2008] by aspesisteve
Jul 26, 2008 (1:42 pm)
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Replying to: carsearch2008 (Jul 26, 2008 9:08 am)

I think KBB uses MSRP as the basis for depreciating a used vehicle. Of course most people know that MSRP, especially with domestics is a joke. It's gotten to be like jewlery stores putting up 'Sale' signs - no one pays "retail" for furniture, jewlery, hotel rooms or cars these days unless it's something in tight supply.
 
I agree with your assessment that car dealers should streamline the buying process and cut out some of the selling layers that really add little value. At least let people have to option to avoid the sales pitch.
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KING RANCH PRICE by kgabe
Jul 28, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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A new 08' King Ranch: Sticker $43,895. Asking $31, 700. Any input?
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Re: KING RANCH PRICE [kgabe] by carsearch2008
Jul 28, 2008 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: kgabe (Jul 28, 2008 12:06 pm)

Austin Texas - Maxwell Ford - a 2008 F150, 4x4 Super Crew (4 full size doors) NEW. Quoted at list of $38K and a sale price of $26,000 minus a few additional incentives that total, my guess, an additional $2000 off for a total purchase price of (guessing) $24,000. However this is not the out the door price.

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