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342 messages, Last post on Aug 20, 2008 at 3:15 PM
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Replying to: grosloup (Jun 17, 2008 5:29 pm) |
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Replying to: asylum575 (Jun 17, 2008 6:50 pm) FYI: Employee pricing is deceptive. It certianly isn't lower than what you could get with some well guided negiations or even better than when they offer something like $10k below MSRP which is common on some of the pricier SUV's on the market. To think that the public can get their cars for the same cost as the employees of Ford, which they can, just shows how worthless employee pricing is to the employees of Ford. It isn't worth much more to the public either.
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 20, 2008 9:28 am)
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Replying to: goblue1279 (Jun 26, 2008 10:00 am) A-Plan and X-Plan are great programs, but you can do better now. I bought my F-150 Harley Davidson with Saleen package, very rare truck they don't offer X-plan on usually, for X-Plan less about 3K. Yes, X-plan minus about 3K. This was back in December, I have the invoice to prove it. How did I do it? Well, they weren't selling many trucks back then, and they still aren't. I had a trade and I knew what the value on the trade was. I showed up with my checkbook and told them I'd give them XX cash and my truck for the Harley. After about 5 minutes of "we can do this for this price per month" I made out a check for the XX price ($30k), then put my keys on the counter and told the guy to see the GM, he had 3 minutes or I was gone. We made the deal, it took 3 minutes, and they wanted to do it X-plan because they made more money that way, or lost less that way, depending on your perspective (they get money back somehow for that plan, not sure how it works). They gave me more for my truck than it was worth, plus they subtracted an additional 2k from X-plan. I don't know how they did it and I sure didn't care. I had tried this tactic with 2 other dealers and had to leave without the truck. The 3rd time was the charm. If you have cash or great credit then you can make all kinds of deals happen. If you have a hard time getting money then you're going to pay more. It's just my 2 cents. This is my 3rd F150 and I love them. Tampa2 |
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Replying to: goblue1279 (Jun 26, 2008 10:00 am) I bought the '04 F150, which was a model change over year, and the employee pricing was not better than what I could get through negotiating. Plus , the employee pricing to the public excludes any model that is selling well. And the fact that you state there is an 'X' plan and an 'A' plan just proves my point at how deceptive it really is. The advertisement shows an assembly line worker pausing at their job and saying "You pay what we pay". It's an insult to either the buyer off the street or an insult to the employee one way or another. What does that say to the employee when everyone on the street gets to buy a car at the "employee price"? It tells me the employee pricing is an empty number. |
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Spoken like someone who has no clue!!! Have you looked at the economy lately? Car sales are down! The Employee pricing is A-Plan to the Public!!!! Plus today Ford announced that if you own a 1998 or newer Ford Vehicle you would receive a $3000 Rebate on top of everything else which simply means up to $12,500 off MSRP. X-plan-Partners of Ford slightly below Invoice on most Fords. A-plan- Below dealer Cost including holdback!!! The point I am really trying to make is that you make car dealers out to be almost Criminal in selling new Trucks when the Reality is that a dealer is lucky to make $1,000 on the sale of a new Truck with this pricing. I am so sick of people coming into my dealer and basically telling me I am not allowed to make any money whats so ever! I don't go to to work every day to not make money. I go to work to make a living like everyone else does!!!! The worst part is if I walked into your work and said "hey I'll buy what your company sells but your not allowed to make a profit on me at all, as a matter of fact I want you to Lose money" I would get thrown out!!!! You know a dealer needs to avg. $1500 or so on each vehicle they sell to keep their doors open? Prices are not going up because Manufactor and dealers are marking them up its because we pay some guy at the Ford Plant $25/hour to mop the Floors. Its funny we think these companys are moving for cheaper labor, it our own fault we wanna organize to make $35/hr to make the cars and then complain because they cost too much!!!!! Ok I am done with my rant!
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| Oh yeah look at the profits for Ford and tell me they are making money right now, and look at my sales floor where 2 months ago we sold 210 cars and last month we sold 80, laid off 2 sales managers and went from 22 sales people to 14. | |
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Replying to: goblue1279 (Jul 03, 2008 1:47 pm) Right now, you are stuck with a whole bunch of product that no one wants. When supply outstrips demand, prices fall. Ask anyone who works in a commodity business about that. Its unfortunate, but that's the way things work. Its the customer's job to get the lowest price they can and the dealer's job to get the highest price. Right now, the market has swung in favor of the customer and the dealers/manufacturers have to take their lumps. But that is YOUR problem. If you want to make money, I hear 4-bangers and hybrids are getting solid margins right now. In the mean time, I will be one of those customers squeezing you as hard as I can on a new truck purchase. Sorry, but that's how the system works... |
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Hybrids have a goods margin but If i were to sell you a brand new 2008 Ford Focus at Full MSRP $15,910 give you the $1500 in rebates(which is not from us. The dealer would make exactly $1,133.66 in profit. Now selling the car i only get paid on 676.66 which mean I make 202.98. I am not tring to be a jerk but the point I am tring to get across is that NO ONE is tring to get one over on you or any consumer. I don't have a problem with an educated consumer but please make sense when you speak. Know what your talking about before you make an ignorant comment about something you just think is right. Oh yeah let me show you the deal on a nice F-150 if you a own a 98 or newer Ford product 2008 F150 4X2 SS S/C 4.6L EFI V8 ENGINE ELECTRONIC 4-SPD AUTO O/D MSRP $28,880 STX Discount Package $2000 Employee Price-$23,888.90 Retail Customer Cash-$2000 Ford Credit Bonus Cash-$1000 Owner Loyalty-$3000 Your Price $17,888.90 Tell me that its not a deal to save $10,991.10 Off MSRP |
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I just purchased a new 2008 King Ranch 4x4 150" for a hair under $13000 off MSRP. That was Employee pricing + another $7000 in rebates. I have seen used trucks for more than I paid... |
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