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#138 of 351 Re: Is Ford A Plan really the best price you can get on an ordered F250? [researchin] by trucker50 Mar 10, 2005 (10:55 am)
Replying to: researchin (Feb 08, 2005 7:40 pm) A plan is non-negotiable but you get all rebates etc. with it as you probably know. If you look to the right a couple columns of the aplan price on the invoice there is the dealer holdback. Alot of times you can get all or part of it back but alot of that depends on sales and the type of vehicle. Sounds like your ordering something of a rare truck so Aplan and rebates is probably the best you can do. I've done no esearch but wouldn't the diesel get better mileage? Another poster is right rebates are kinda low considering sales, gas prices etc. but F-series trucks and the new Mustang are the best sellers in there inventory. This time last year I think the rebate was only about $500 total
#139 of 351 F-250, one other thing.... by trucker50 Mar 10, 2005 (11:03 am)
Make sure to ask if there is any extra Aplan money available. They won't tell you unless you ask and sometimes pretend they didn't know. It's like an extra rebate....I was in the market last fall and even with all the other rebates there was an extra $1000 dollars Aplan money.
#140 of 351 aplan money by connon1 Mar 10, 2005 (10:56 pm)
When I was looking around also last fall there was an extra $1000 attached to my pin as a retiree bonus. Trucker50 is right, of you do not point it out to the dealer they play stupid and dont bring it up.BTW, KR denotes a King Ranch package available in F150 supercab, Supercrew or F250/350 crew cab. This is an upgrade for the Lariat trim levels.
#141 of 351 F250 Pricing: Where to start? by bigj Mar 16, 2005 (6:02 pm)
After reading the used pricing guide, and doing lots of research, I'm thoroughly confused. Here's a sample of a truck I'm looking at... 02 F250, crew cab, 4x4, PSD, 60,000 miles, good to excellent condition.   FMV pricing is $23,000 for Dealer retail, $19,000 for private party. Black Book retail is $30,000 and wholesale is around $27,000. KBB is $3000 less than Black Book for each.   The main difference in price is from the diesel motor. Edmunds doesn't add much for the PSD, but Black Book and KBB add $4000. How do I know if I'm getting a good deal when the pricing reports are almost $4000 apart to start with, and how accurate are the FMV pricing reports? Maybe they aren't calculating the diesel motor option correctly? I've found a few trucks that I want to look at, but the pricing seems high compared to FMV but is right on the money with Black Book and KBB.   Thanks, BIGJ Replies to this message: jhs70 (Mar 17, 2005 10:32 am) jhs70 (Mar 17, 2005 10:34 am)
#142 of 351 Re: F250 Pricing: Where to start? [bigj] by jhs70 Mar 17, 2005 (10:32 am)
Replying to: bigj (Mar 16, 2005 6:02 pm) I could be wrong, but I think the black book value is used primarily by banks and other lending institutions to determine how much they will lend you for that specific vehicle. It may or may not have anything to do with its actual market value. As far as the other sources, use then as guides or ballpark numbers. Ultimately, though, your job is to synthesize all this information and simply make an offer that you can live with, then wait and see what the seller says. That's what the value of the vehicle is anyway -- whatever price the buyer and seller agree to. I would look in the paper, cars.com, autotrader.com, traderonline.com and everything in between to see what that truck is probably worth in your locale.   Good luck. Replies to this message: jhs70 (Mar 17, 2005 10:34 am)
#143 of 351 Re: F250 Pricing: Where to start? [jhs70] by jhs70 Mar 17, 2005 (10:34 am)
Replying to: jhs70 (Mar 17, 2005 10:32 am) I forgot to add something: because it's used mainly by lenders, the value tends to be higher than some of the other pricing sources.
#144 of 351 F150 Pricing. Does this sound OK? by gabe311 Mar 18, 2005 (8:52 am)
I am looking at a 2005 F150 SuperCab 5.4L. The MSRP is $30,795. With rebates and discounts the price is now $23,390. I was wondering how this looks compared to some other people on here and their experiences buying a Ford truck. Here is a link to the window sticker. http://flm.dealerconnection.com/pages/present/flm/notlocalized/searchinventory/windowstick- er.asp?vin=1FTRX125X5FA27406&orgid=6014&localeid=1033 Replies to this message: jhs70 (Mar 18, 2005 11:00 am) gabe311 (Mar 20, 2005 11:53 am) jhs70 (Mar 21, 2005 11:28 am)
#145 of 351 Re: F150 Pricing. Does this sound OK? [gabe311] by jhs70 Mar 18, 2005 (11:00 am)
Replying to: gabe311 (Mar 18, 2005 8:52 am) Gabe, I don't know where you are, but here in the DC area, it's EASY to find any f150 at 7000-8500 off MSRP, so your deal sounds a bit high to me. But that's based on this area. My formula would be to take invoice and subtract holdback (which can be found in this website) and all applicable rebates. Then once you have that number add in a profit -- I do $500-$700, some say you should tack on 3-4% of the number you're left with. See where that lands you. It's YOUR bottom number. All they can do is say NO, and counter offer. Then it's up to you to see what you can live with. It all depends on how competitive the dealers are in your area, that's the key to your quesiton. If they're not, you could consider buying in another area if at all possible. It may not be.... Good luck. PS, If I get some time later today, I'll run your numbers and let you know..... Replies to this message: gabe311 (Mar 20, 2005 11:53 am) jhs70 (Mar 21, 2005 11:28 am)
#146 of 351 05 F250 Harley by gonzo40 Mar 19, 2005 (6:13 am)
just picked up one for $43k under A-Plan, the only thing it doesnt have is the Command Towing system, everything else is on it.
#147 of 351 Re: F150 Pricing. Does this sound OK? [jhs70] by gabe311 Mar 20, 2005 (11:53 am)
Replying to: jhs70 (Mar 18, 2005 11:00 am) I got it yesterday for $22,500. That's $8295 off MSRP so I was on target with your estimations. I am only 24 and in grad school, but managed to get a good interest rate and the payments I wanted, but only after harsh negotiations! It was rough, but I got what I wanted in the end, and I am satisfied. Thanks for the info. Replies to this message: jhs70 (Mar 21, 2005 11:28 am)

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