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Infiniti FX35, Infiniti FX45, Infiniti FX50, SUV
#42 of 1806 Houston area dealers?
by timtx01
Oct 08, 2003 (9:25 am)
Can anyone fill me in on experiences with Houston dealerships? I'm finding them not very anxious to do deals on FX35's which strikes me as odd since they're obviously not selling well here. Between the 3 Houston dealerships there are easily 80-100 of the FX35/45s in stock and they admit they keep getting more. Infiniti's 2.9% financing through January 2004 also hints that the cars aren't moving well, and I've seen almost none on Houston roads. I'm looking to trade a 2000 BMW 528 wagon in excellent condition with just 28k miles on it but am getting absurdly low numbers for the trade of $17-19k, and I simply will not do that with Carmax over $22k (trade is highly desirable in Texas because it offsets against sales tax). I figure at some point, one of the dealers will realize that a reasonable sale allowing some profit is better than no sale, but I'm not sure how much more blunt about this I can be. I'm not budging from my numbers so it's a waiting game...
Oct 08, 2003 (10:44 am)
not sure where you live in houston but I see 1 or 2 everyday here. We are not infested with them like the rx330's and mdx's but they are very popular at least on the southwest side of town where I have seen over a dozen different ones. The dealers here do not deal there really are only two dealers as the guy who owns SW infiniti also owns clear lake and west side and north houston have the same ownership. I think they collude on pricing. I got mine (FX35 RWD Black w/Blk/brick int and Tech package) from Grubbs in dallas there are one of the top 3 infiniti dealers in the country and the people at SW infiniti wouldn't even come close to touching there price. I think Grubbs will sell them for 4-800 over invoice right now. You want more information e-mail me. They have an FX35 AWD Tech with SUPERCHARGER on sale now for 46.5K.
#44 of 1806 Houston pricing collusion
by timtx01
Oct 08, 2003 (4:45 pm)
I knew SW Infiniti and Clear Lake were the same owner, but I didn't know that North Houston and West Houston were connected. However, the Southwest dealership admitted to me that it was talking to the North Houston dealership about my desired vehicle and trade. So they are clearly all working together. Frankly this is a major problem in the Houston car market and something should be done about it on the legal front. Last year I was negotiating with BMW and couldn't get anywhere on numbers because 3 of the 4 local BMW stores are all the same owner. Finally one suggested I shop my trade at CarMax, and I got so tired of their attitude and unwillingness to talk numbers that I found my BMW 528 at CarMax instead. It was a much better purchase. Infiniti here in Houston won't get my business either if they keep being obstinate, frankly I'm fed up. I will gladly take my business to Dallas if need be. If any other Houston customers know of collusion like this please contact me. I will be happy to coordinate info and see if state/local authorities would be interested in it. Thanks - Tim
Oct 08, 2003 (10:12 pm)
Good luck; from what I hear, the Texas auto dealers lobby makes the NRA and AARP look like amateurs.
Here's a link for you (Consumers Union). Check the archives under Financial Services.
Steve, Host
Oct 09, 2003 (7:08 am)
You are exactly right you can't use autobytel or carsdirect in texas. they have a very powerful pressence.
#47 of 1806 smurfboy & ngkiyan (Bay Area Dealer)???
by joystix
Oct 15, 2003 (2:19 pm)
Where did you guys pick up your FX35's in the Bay Area? Thanks
Ric (joystix2
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#48 of 1806 Bay Area Dealer
by smurfboy
Oct 21, 2003 (11:21 am)
Hey Joystix,
I went to Pennisula Infiniti. The guys there are great. I would ask for Ron. But make sure you get a better price than I did. I think I paid a couple hundred more than I should have. But don't go to the steven's creek one. Their service sucks.
#49 of 1806 $40,600 for 2003 FX45 Premium???
by kevinaetna
Oct 23, 2003 (3:52 pm)
Hey, guys!
Need a piece of advice here. I am dreaming about FX and a dealer in NY has 2003 FX45 Premium for $40,600, The car is brand new, 0 miles, not a demo or something.
He got me approved for 1.9 APR with no down. Says I will pay $748.84/mo for 60 months (incl. tax). I am in Massachussets.
He also says that I can lease it for 36 months for $562/mo with 10K mi/yr allowance (I will barely drive 5-7K mi a year).
My assumption was: If I buy it and sell in 5 years, say for $20,000 it kind of makes my monthly payments lower by 20K/60=$335 so in fact the actual cost is about $415. If I lease it, dealer says, buyout is going to be 52% of $47,590 (it`s MSRP), hence $24,400 so if I buy out and sell it, say for $28,000, I`ll lower the average monthly lease payment for $100, hence true cost is $562-100=462.
What would you, guys recommend - lease or buy?
#50 of 1806 fx45 premium
by 93fsu1
Oct 24, 2003 (9:24 pm)
try to get it for $39,000 - $39,600.
You might want to take the lease vs. buy question over to finance, warranty and insurance board.
#51 of 1806 fx 35 (awd with premium) demo car with 4000 miles on it
by ignap
Oct 28, 2003 (2:34 pm)
Hey guys,
need some advice and help. how much should i be paying for the demo car described above..
also at this point is better to get a 2003 just below invoice or should i go for 2004
thanks !!