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Lexus LS 400, Lexus LS 430, Car Buying, Sedan
#129 of 592 Re: Any buying experiences with the 2005? [michael_mattox]
Nov 02, 2004 (4:23 am)
Thanks Anita, Michael and sedan forum host (Pat). Can anyone help me from where I reside or should I travel west to California? I am often on business trips that lead me to several states. Perhaps it is best that I have my Ls 430 selection shipped to the Southeast? JM will not deal as much on the Ls 430 so far is what I have experienced ALSO I learned that they are not the largest store in the world. Any advise members? We seek and immediate purchase for a 2005 Ls 430 sedan or 2005 Lx 470 SUV. No Local Atlanta, Georgia nor Alabama dealer offers us much savings on any selection is what we are encountering. Perhaps we should wait until the end of the 2005 year to buy our Lexus selection instead? I hear that the best bargains occur during that period, fewer salesman haggle and their apparent 'take it or leave it' demeanor alters. Of course we have heard about the end of season limited colors likelihood although we are flexible. What should be our next step?
Nov 02, 2004 (6:23 pm)
I purchased an 03 LS 430 Ultra and an 03 SC 430 from Reinhardt Lexus in Montgomery, AL. I had checked all over the Southeast and they gave me the best deal. But be prepared with price you want to pay and have figures available. Deal only with the sales manager. I did the initial contact by e-mail and then telephone to finalize the deal. Tel THEM the price you want to pay. They also give great service.
#131 of 592 Re: Any buying experiences with the 2005? [duval]
Nov 02, 2004 (8:27 pm)
I am the proud new owner of a '05 LS. My last 3 cars were 2 MBs after a BMW, but reliability concerns pushed me towards Lexus this time. I went into Lexus of Rockville (MD) (closest dealer to me) for a test drive and maybe to look for a deal on a remaining '04 or demo, and ended up with what I believe was an incredible deal on a 2005 Black/Cashmere with a $62,734 MSRP (Modern Lux, Smart Key, 18" alloy wheels, Preferred Accessories). As the last LS in stock on the last day of the month (and dealer is building a big new facility and looking to kick up sales to justify larger allocation next year), I negotiated a bottom line price of $55,985. This appears to be a bigger discount than any on even a comparable '04 I see reported on this forum! Excellent buying experience with the salesman (former service mgr). Good luck.
#132 of 592 Re: Duval [ron36330]
Nov 03, 2004 (7:52 am)
Thanks Ron and I will check this location today. I did check the Huntsville, Alabama location and the Tom Williams dealership last week. I was thinking of calling the Mobile location this week. Noticeably the Huntsville and Tom Williams final offers are a lot higher versus Hennessey and South Atlanta, Georgia Lexus. Of course Florida's JM Lexus offer was the lowest so far although as I factor their sizable dealer fees and shipping to my home or office, the cost elevates the total near other grand totals. Perhaps I can receive an acceptable grand total including minor shipping and no dealership fees from your source.... This I will attempt.
I will keep you posted and announce your recommendation response soon.
#133 of 592 Re: Any buying experiences with the 2005? [garyh1]
Nov 03, 2004 (8:10 am)
Hello and my thanks goes to you as well Gary. Per your purchase and price experience am I left astounded. How recent did you make this Ls 430 w/Modern Luxury and smart key purchase? I ask since posing a similar offer to JM Lexus (reputed Lexus distributor and largest Lexus store in the WORLD) only to receive "we cannot at this time since a recently received low production announcement." It appears the manufacturer has decided to slow production for the Modern Luxury with smart key package (few hundred dollars extra cost feature it appears). "Only 6% will enter the United States this year" is what was uttered. Perhaps you committed your purchase a few months prior? Of course you did mention that the store was upsizing at the time.
Email me or log more details Gary, thanks again.
#134 of 592 Re: Any buying experiences with the 2005? [duval]
Nov 03, 2004 (8:36 am)
Well, all I can say is that the first time I ever talked to anyone was when I walked into the dealer on Saturday afternoon 10/30, and made the final deal by phone Sunday morning 10/31. I was the last car delivered later that evening. I guess that's what you call being in the right place at the right time.
In terms of availability of the specific package, all I can tell you is that if you go to lexus.com and put in 20852 as your zip and build an LS, it shows the exact combination of features I got with a "T" next to it, which apparently means it is a commonly available option combination. Also, the last 2 cars this dealer had left were exactly the same.
The key seems to be to find a car in stock from the dealer you want to use and push at the end of the month. If you would like me to call my salesman and ask what he could do for you, let me know, and we can exchange emails. Of course, I know they literally had no LSs left as of Monday morning, but they sell a lot of them and have more coming in all the time. BTW, the Smart Key is a $1,000 option-- it's cool but not worth that much IMHO. That's frankly how I did my final negotiation-- refused to pay for it!
#135 of 592 Re: Any buying experiences with the 2005? [garyh1]
Nov 03, 2004 (9:32 am)
Hello again and I am definitely encouraged. I appreciate your insight and response. I should have time to investigate things more this evening. Meanwhile, I learned from my wife that JM Lexus committed a voice mail to our home voice mail box. Likely they offer us a counter offer of sorts. I will see and keep you all posted.
#136 of 592 JM WILL deal.
Nov 03, 2004 (2:27 pm)
JM lexus will do ANYTHING they can to sell you a vehicle. They are a volume dealership and if your credit is excellent and are willing to deal right away with no games, you'll get a VERY decent deal.
Their most recent lease offer to me for an '05 LS430 was 48 months/48 thousand miles with modern luxury and smart access $719 per month with $850 to start the lease. That deal puts the cap cost for this vehicle very close to invoice -- otherwise they've got a lease deal going on that they are not publishing with higher residual values/lower lease interest rates, etc.
I'd take that offer but I still have a month and a half on my current vehicle lease and am waiting for that to be done with. Unless I fall in love with another vehicle, I am more than likely going in the last week of December to get my LS.
I'll let you know the final numbers then....
#137 of 592 Re: Any buying experiences with the 2005? [duval]
Nov 05, 2004 (7:06 am)
Back when I bought, I traveled a lot and was in a position where I could buy anywhere in the country.
Ill. Ohio MD and Cal. were the states were I found the best prices....As I said LONGO LEXUS In So. California is a terrific dealer.
#138 of 592 Re: Any buying experiences with the 2005? [michael_mattox]
Nov 05, 2004 (10:47 am)
Hello again Michael and I am familiar with Longo. Per the posted experiences offered from members, I am definitely intrigued. Immediately I am considering an offer from a recommended source in Alabama. I am 'working the details,' as to say although they appear very limited in supply. I was told to wait for their next telephone call and response to my color request. I also have to wait and see if traditional dealership fees can be waived and if shipping can be included in my deal... Noticeably they are a rather small store so I await to see if they can comply. Meanwhile, JM Lexus seems to have committed their final offer. It remains as the lowest grand total including shipping to my door. I might commit to them if the Montgomery, Alabama store offers us difficulty. So far the representatives tonality and interest appear genuine.
Once again, I will keep all posted and thanks.