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| Just ordered a 2005 Unlimited using my companies Affiliate Rewards program which touts 1% under invoice. However, I'm still not comfortable with the cost of the Detroit Metro PPA and DAA fee lines ($280 and $240 respectively). That throws the actual price to being just over $300 over invoice and not under invoice as I had planned. Anyone know if these are negotiable? The dealer insisted they're part of what they're paying to the regional Jeep areas as part of their invoice. I'd like to confirm that if anyone knows for sure. Thanks. | |
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Replying to: jimlw2 (Apr 28, 2005 6:12 pm) Laura
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Replying to: jimlw2 (Apr 28, 2005 6:12 pm) |
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Replying to: letdolphin (Apr 28, 2005 6:27 pm) Nice to hear I'm not alone with those "fees", Laura...even though mine are over $200 higher than yours were. My antenna just goes up when my numbers don't match. Mac24...I went in there with a printout from the Jeep website accessed through my company's website with an exact price of $24,722 before rebates/taxes for Unlimited, auto, security, locking fuel cap, mats, dual top, and side steps. The dealer explained the "extras" I hadn't planned on like 8 gallons of gas for $15, customer loyalty mailing for $25, and then the $280 PPA and $240 DAA. He insisted these are all charges the dealer passes along on "under invoice" deals like the Affiliate Rewards program. I like the "no haggle" concept of it but because it was so easy I can't help but think those fees are where they're getting an extra amount of money as iif they're "invoice." The printout he gave me says..."This is not an invoice" so I have to wonder if they're "padding" a bit with some printout program that takes the dealer invoice plus a little extra. He forget to have me sign the order form and waived any good-faith money so I may contact another dealer to see what they quote. I'd hate to turn my back on the dealer that's ordering one for me but I figure it can't hurt to double-check them against another dealer. I'm mainly curious whether others doing "invoice" deals have run into similar charges.
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Replying to: jimlw2 (Apr 28, 2005 7:29 pm) Don't even get into the various line items, just work on the final price you pay. Use Edmunds and other sites to do your research to find a fair total price. Deduct something for bargaining with, maybe 5-10%, then say to the dealer "This is the specification of the Jeep I want, can you sell it to me for that price with nothing added? That way it doesn't matter what the various fees are, either the deal can be done or you'll get a counter offer. I'm sure you can take it from there! |
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Going to dealership tomorrow...any thoughts to earlier message? ********** Dealer near me has a leftover 2004 Wrangler Unlimited (brand new) priced at $19,999 with a sticker of $25,620 (includes floor mats, stereo upgrade and leather-wrapped sterring wheel, cruise). Does this seem inline with what others are paying? Have always wanted a Wrangler and it seems like a good deal.
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Replying to: tka2 (Apr 28, 2005 7:59 pm) |
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For those researching numbers to buy a Wrangler Unlimited, here are my details in hopes it helps...No haggle-prices using my company's Affiliate Rewards connection (aka Friends/Family/Partners - or FFP) which touts 1% under invoice. My dealer is in SE Michigan. Prices below are from the two columns in a printout from my dealer listed as "MSRP" and "FWP" (supposedly invoice)... Wrangler Unlimited White/Khaki 23,895 / 21,877 Automatic 825 / 726 Security Group 295 / 260 Locking Fuel Cap 15 / 13 Front Floor Mats 30 / 26 Dual Top 1,435 / 1,263 Bodyside Steps 150 / 132 8 gallons gas 0 / 15 Customer Loyalty Mailing 0 / 25 Detroit Metro - PPA/EB-PF 0 / 280 Detroit Metro - DAA 0 / 240 Total 27,305 / 25,517 FFP Price = $25,262 (1% under the FWP "invoice" price above) 6% Sales Tax = $1,515.72 Title $23.00 Total Delivered Price = $26,800 Minus $500 former military Minus $750 (assuming it's still there when the Wrangler is delivered) Minus $1,000 Chrysler Finance (again, assuming they still offer that at deliverly) Out the door price = $24,550 Minimum Chrysler Finance amount needed to get the $1,000 rebate is $2,000 for at least six months. My concern about my price last night was because those gas, customer mailing, PPA, and DAA costs were not figured in the Affiliate Rewards price provided directly from the Jeep website. Their price was 24,722 before rebates, taxes, and fees. My dealers price was $540 over that amount due to those other charges. That's why my antenna went up even though my dealer insisted they have to recoup those charges on "invoice" deals like this. So you know, Jeep website shows the Preferred Discount due to the Affiliate Rewards at $2,583 off the sticker price before rebates. Even if you don't have access to the Affiliate Rewards deal, I hope seeing what I've posted above will show you what you can shoot for if it's better. |
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Was looking at a rubicon hardtop automatic. 2004. Does anyone have an idea what I should offer for vehicle? Never had a jeep before. Will use for around town, not off road. It would come in handy in the long island winters. Am I biting off more than I'm bargaining for. Owner returned it cause the ride and noise was not what he expected. Is everyday city driving very uncomfortable? Like your opinions of vehicle and what I should offer dealer. Went to lot to look at 2005 cherokee unlimited, but the rubicon intrigues me. Been looking for a 4x4 for a while. Any suggestions? Has a Liberty also that re recommends.
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Replying to: brian211 (Apr 30, 2005 7:56 am) If you purchase on a whim you'll probably find yourself in the position of the vehicle's previous owner. There's a very active Wrangler forum here on Edmunds if you have any specific questions. |
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