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#301 of 710 Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [tommyboy6]
Mar 29, 2007 (10:29 am)
I don't even know why I am going to bother on replying to so called TommyBoy... but.. nonetheless... it may be the reason Ms. smith still tries to teach Johnny 2+2=4.
First, we are off topic and.. I check these boards to simply familarize myself with the marketplace and.. to see what my competition is doing. With that said.. i do take it personal when moronic comments are made.. such as If we could there would be no need for greedy car dealers.
Look at the Jeep Lineup and.. educate yourself before you make such statements. First.. the Liberty as overdue for a facelift and... therefore.. in the last 12 - 18 months.. it has become a loser. Most Liberties sold are either at $0 profit, or a slight loser. The Commander and Grand Cherokee are on the fence.. depending on the incentive and.. number of days in inventory. Typically.. a dealer can lose alot of money on a $45,000 Commander if he has it on his floor plan for over 90 days. The Compass and the Patriot are brand new, and.. the profit margin on each is very small, if not insignificant.
That brings me to the wrangler. If in fact the dealer knows this is a profit generator... possibly $2,000 - $4,000 per Wrangler sold... he has an obligation to his buisness to generate as much profit as possible to simply recoup any money lost on other models sold.
Which, in turn brings me to my second point. If the average profit on a 2007 Wrangler is $3,000... and it is a middle of the road Wrangler ($25,000).. the dealer is only making 12% on his upfront investment. This does not include any possible advertising costs, interest paid on his existing floor plan, etc. I would urge you to educate yourself on the profit margin of typical items sold at target, Walmart, Home Depot, etc and you will find the margins are much higher, sometimes exceding 200% or 300%.
But.. because this is the vehcile you want.. you again think the dealer has an obligation to sell it to you at YOUR price. wrong. He has an obligation to sell it at the most profit he can, simple as that.
Obviously you have a sore tooth regarding dealers and.. you think they are all money hungry vultures waiting to wipe out your savings account. Although some dealers may operate this way, most dealers do not. They are more interested in earning your business, building a relationship with you and your family, and selling you 20 cars not just 1.
However... by your statements, you either have not purchased many vehicles in your lifetime, because your obvious lack of experience, or... you are simply the A Typical customer who goes from delerhsip to dealerhsip getting thrown out by every salesman he meets because you offend them or.. think you are entitled to insult them for your own self gratification.
Now to get back on topic... I will let you know.. that this whole supply and demand issue will not get any better in the near future. Chrysler is poised to buildout the 2007 model year because of the backlogged sold orders already placed. So... if you are thinking of getting one.. and want one this year.. you best act quick or you will be waiting until fall.
#302 of 710 Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [sathomps10]
Apr 04, 2007 (8:54 pm)
Good God ! Whoever you are, Whatever you do...USE SPELLCHECK !
#303 of 710 Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [sathomps10]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Apr 05, 2007 (7:37 am)
Let's get back to Jeep Wrangler pricing, and if at all possible, stay there.
(giantsin06, I could easily suggest that you use grammar check as well, but we're talking about vehicles rather than spelling/grammar/syntax)
#304 of 710 Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [kirstie_h]
Apr 05, 2007 (9:41 am)
When and where kirstie ? Otherwise , up your paralipsis !
#305 of 710 Wooooooohooooo!
Apr 07, 2007 (6:31 am)
Bought my 2007 Wrangler Unlimited X, 4X4, soft-top in Graystone Pearl yesterday at Foster Jeep in Middlebury, VT. It was almost exactly what I wanted ... no sirius radio, but that's ok. Also, it did come with the smokers package - which is a joke of a $30 plastic cup and lighter. I got a good deal on my trade and paid between invoice and sticker - since I really wanted the car now I didn't mind paying a little bit more than I originally intended, or hoped for.
Foster Jeep was really easy to work with and more than fair in getting this deal done.
#306 of 710 Re: Wooooooohooooo! [wiggles1]
Apr 07, 2007 (8:28 am)
Not only favorable figures make for a good deal, being treated fairly and with respect does as well. Sounds like you did well on both counts. Congratulations!
#307 of 710 New some help on Wrangler Pricing??
Apr 08, 2007 (2:55 pm)
I have been looking at a new vechicle. I was at the new york auto show yesterday and I liked the wrangler. I like the Rubicon 4x4 Unlimited 4 door Wrangler. On the jeep website, It was listed $28 and change. With the options I want. Automatic transmission and Power package (lame that we have to pay for it). It went over $31!!! $31!!! There's no f-ing way I would pay that much for a jeep!! They dont hold the value!! And the fender was cheap plastic!!! Geezz what were they thinking. If i get with the hard-top. It costs even more!!
I like the wrangler. I dont think its worth that much for it. I wouldn't mind paying $25!!
Anyone having problems with their vinyl top? leak or anything? I'm looking at the tacoma! Looks I'm going steps towards the pick up truck. How much are you guys paying?
#308 of 710 Re: New some help on Wrangler Pricing?? [linkfeeney]
Apr 08, 2007 (3:10 pm)
There's no f-ing way I would pay that much for a jeep!! They dont hold the value!!
That's a new one!
#309 of 710 Re: New some help on Wrangler Pricing?? [linkfeeney]
Apr 08, 2007 (3:31 pm)
If your so quick to move from a Rubicon Wrangler to a Toyota Tacoma, then its obvious you don't need the Rubicon trim in the first place!
If your looking to stay close to 25, get a X model with the S package, which equals Sahara minus colored fenders, with Auto, 17", Power Stuff for a sticker of $26,200. $25k negotiated and no complaints.
A fully loaded Tacoma costs north of $30k, theres no way I'd pay that considering you can get full size trucks for that today.
Buy whatever you want.
#310 of 710 Re: New some help on Wrangler Pricing?? [linkfeeney]
Apr 09, 2007 (5:33 am)
After reading these posts it's most obvious that any negative input regarding the Wrangler product is either lambasted and or discarded as irrelevant by the experts here. Any positive comments are not treated with the same scorn. Does Edmunds ever check on these constant and relentless posters as to whether or not there is paid compensation involved? Or is this bent all a loyalty thing?