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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [mac24] by wheelsdown
Mar 27, 2007 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Mar 26, 2007 4:39 pm)

That does it Martin, I will never buy a new car from you.
 
Terry
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [wheelsdown] by nolid5
Mar 27, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: wheelsdown (Mar 27, 2007 11:45 am)

I still would but only if it's below invoice.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [tommyboy6] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 27, 2007 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: tommyboy6 (Mar 27, 2007 8:10 am)

I happen to agree with him.. If they have a popular model that is selling without incentives, why would they sell it for less?
 
Chrysler has a plethora of crappy models that need incentives to move, and they oblige by laying them on thick..
 
It is the free market at work.. Learn to love it..
 
Heck.. I don't think Mac even asked you to buy a car from him..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [kyfdx] by sathomps10
Mar 27, 2007 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 27, 2007 1:32 pm)

Ok, I guess it is only right of me to first say that I am too a dealer. I will obide by Edmunds own rules and not tell you what dealer I am, but I will simply say that we are one of the top Jeep dealers in the country, and the #1 Wrangler dealer.
 
With that said, I can not for the life of me understand the comments made on this forum. My first reply is simply to those posters who are angry, mad, upset, and downright rude about dealers in general, Chrysler as a manufacturer, simply because a dealer will not sell them a Wrangler at what they think they should pay.
 
As I mentioned above, we are the top Wrangler dealer in the country. With that said, you must understand that every dealer has a certain number of Wranglers allocated to them based on their past wrangler sales.
 
For us, that number is large. For others, that number may be small. However, that is not significant. If a dealer has a vehicle they know they can sell for X dollars... then why is it wrong for the delaer to ask, or therefore, demand x dollars? They know what they are allocated, what they may or may not be getting in, and they demand for such vehicles. If you ask to pay invoice, the dealer has every right to say NO, because they know 10 minutes after you leave, a customer will offer sticker.
 
Now... with all of this said, I do NOT advocate selling above sticker. However... for someone to be as frustrated as some of you seem to be simply because a dealer refuses to sell the car you want for what you want to pay is absolutly ridiculas.
 
You .. as the customer... have a decision. either pay what the dealer is asking, or try and find it someplace else. If, after some time... you can not find a dealer willing to sell you the vehicle at your price (which is what i suspect) you again have a choice. Pay what the dealer is asking, or simply wait. Over time... the price will go down however it may take 6 months or 3 years. as the previous poster said.. its about supply and demand.
 
Lastly, to the other poster who made some ridiculas comment about dealers losing holdback, etc. Dream on. Every manufacturer has this, including your foreign makes. This is a guarenteed built in profit that is part of the business model of a dealer. Some of you have the attidtude that ALL dealers have an obligation to lose money so you can drive your car of choice. Dream on.
 
Hopefully you all understand my comments and if you don't, I am sorry to let you know you will be on this forum 1 year from now with the same frustrations as you have now. Good luck living with THAT stress!
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [tommyboy6] by mac24
Mar 27, 2007 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: tommyboy6 (Mar 27, 2007 8:10 am)

I, along with about 90% of American car buyers, agree with this Jerry and his "take" on the dealers world. He speaks for the majority of us.
 
Wow Tommyboy, I didn't realize Jerry headed such a large group. I'm afraid I can only speak for myself. Are you a friend of Jerry's? I only ask because this is your first post since you became a member last month, and you have a writing style very similar to his (almost identical in fact!). You also seem to have his sense of frustration and anger, at least on this subject. Perhaps you're related then? Twins maybe? Do tell!
 
Oh, and just for the record, I'm not a car dealer (or even a former car dealer). I just find that I get a better idea of the big picture if I try to see both sides. Rather than just railing against the system, I find it more constructive to examine it in detail so that I can see what may be possible (there's always a way ).
 
Want a cheap Jeep, want it now, want it on your doorstep? Nope, can't be done. So, what to do? Stamp your foot? How did that work for you? Sore foot but no Jeep huh? How about changing one of the parameters? Expensive Jeep? No, that'll hurt more than your foot. Wait until supply matches demand? It didn't sound like patience is your strong suit, so scrub that one. Final option, go to where the Jeeps are cheap. I gave you a link to a previous post with details of an invoice purchase, did you check it out? It does sound like the most agreeable option to get what you want right now.
 
That is what you want isn't it, a cheap Jeep and not just a platform to rant at car manufacturers in general and DC in particular? There may be a forum for that here on CarSpace, but really, this one isn't it.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [wheelsdown] by mac24
Mar 27, 2007 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: wheelsdown (Mar 27, 2007 11:45 am)

That does it Martin, I will never buy a new car from you.
Terry

 
That will work perfectly Terry, as I don't have one to sell you.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [nolid5] by mac24
Mar 27, 2007 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: nolid5 (Mar 27, 2007 12:28 pm)

I still would but only if it's below invoice.
 
Now you're just being silly.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [kyfdx] by mac24
Mar 27, 2007 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 27, 2007 1:32 pm)

I happen to agree with him.
 
Now I'm starting to get worried.
 
Kind of like when the political scapegoat of the week hears that he has the full support of the President.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [sathomps10] by mac24
Mar 27, 2007 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: sathomps10 (Mar 27, 2007 1:52 pm)

With that said, I can not for the life of me understand the comments made on this forum. My first reply is simply to those posters who are angry, mad, upset, and downright rude about dealers in general, Chrysler as a manufacturer, simply because a dealer will not sell them a Wrangler at what they think they should pay.
 
Don't take it to heart, I think it's poster singular, rather than posters.
 
I do believe that most people here, while thinking it would be nice to get something for nothing, are intelligent enough to realize that there is no free lunch.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [mac24] by tommyboy6
Mar 28, 2007 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: mac24 (Mar 27, 2007 6:51 pm)

Why reply to fluff? I have better things to do. But I will say this. I have posted just a few times here and no I have no 2nd screen name pal. Your allegations of impersonations is pretty sorry stuff. Maybe try the Oprah show instead. You're not a dealer you say then why post your laughable input all day long? Maybe get a dog or something for obviously sales ain't good back at the dealership now are they. Dealers are just that. It doesn't get any simpler. Even you could figure this out. The Wrangler is the new "gotta have toy" in America thus these dealers are squeezing every buck out of the situation. Free enterprise you say? Buyers beware you say? My ass. It’s called greed. The franchise laws precluded the free enterprise system from working decades ago. One can't buy direct from the factory. If we could there would be no need for greedy car dealers. No holdback/freight charges/price manipulation. This industry has been protected for years because of the lobbying groups sold out America. Chrysler will announcing their sale to a private group, as had been alluded to, in days is most true. And yes these new owners will demand deep and painful concessions. Hopefully, the pain will be felt all the way down to these dealers. To the point where some of them are knocked out of the box. Maybe then they can work on their spelling. I hope that #1 Wrangler dealer that supposedly posted here has someone else writing up those sales contracts. All one has to do is practice general law for a couple of years to conclude the above mentioned. I have, and believe me some car dealers and their financial con artists are the sewage of all sewage.

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