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Can I still order 07 Unlimited by rp05
Mar 25, 2007 (6:34 am)
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I was looking to buy a 07 Unlimited and had been told on March 23rd that I could no longer order one and they wouldn't honor my Chrysler affiliate rewards pricing either on the units they had on their lot.
I called another dealer some 50 miles away and they said I can order a new unit and can use affiliate pricing. They really didn't sound to sure on the phone though, "I'm pretty sure you can" the salesperson told me. Does anyone have any information.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [rp05] by jerrymcshane1
Mar 26, 2007 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: rp05 (Mar 25, 2007 6:34 am)

Would NOT buy any Jeep Wrangler at these ridiculous prices. Chrysler is dying a slow death and the ONLY thing selling for them are these Wranglers. Chrysler is just laying away you buyers. WAIT. Have patience. Do NOT get screwed by these sleazy dealers. Pay INVOICE ONLY or NOTHING at all.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [jerrymcshane1] by mac24
Mar 26, 2007 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: jerrymcshane1 (Mar 26, 2007 7:47 am)

LOL, I guess you won't be buying a Wrangler anytime soon!
 
Just a couple of points I'd take issue with. First, it really is unrealistic to expect a new model from any manufacturer to be widely available at invoice pricing. Second, it's possible to buy a Wrangler at or below invoice right now. It all depends on the geographical location of the dealer and the business model he's using.
 
Finally, whether you buy at $1000 below invoice or $1000 over MSRP makes no difference to DC. Volume of sales is all DC cares about, and at the moment they can't keep up with demand.
 
Do I sense some kind of personal issue here?
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [mac24] by jerrymcshane1
Mar 26, 2007 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Mar 26, 2007 8:24 am)

Do I sense some kind of personal issue here? Not at all just common sense. Chrysler is on the ropes to put it midly. Their attempts to sell the joint will happen but ONLY on the new private buyers terms. Which means the current employees are going to get the shafting of their lives. Wrangler is the ONLY entity making money now but does that give them a reason to "screw" these potential buyers into the ground? Ford tried it with the Mustang for a while and I bet lost future sales as a result. Guess who's offering rebates on the Mustang now? As for WHAT region is asking invoice only? I'd love to hear it for I have found NONE. And yes I would buy an 07' Rubicon 2-door for invoice if I can find one. So NO, to your initial question.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [jerrymcshane1] by mac24
Mar 26, 2007 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: jerrymcshane1 (Mar 26, 2007 10:09 am)

I can't (won't) do all your research for you, but you could start by re-reading post #254 for details of an ordered Wrangler at invoice.
 
In general terms, I can't imagine why any manufacturer of any product would want to sell it for less than the optimum return. If you can sell all you can make, and there's a ten to twelve week delay in fulfilling current orders, why would you hand out rebates or reduce the price? All that would happen is that the number of orders would increase and the delay would lengthen, while reducing the income to the manufacturer. The time to reduce prices is when supply starts to exceed demand, not the other way around.
 
Anyhow, I still don't understand what DC is doing to ""screw" these potential buyers into the ground".
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [mac24] by jerrymcshane1
Mar 26, 2007 (12:55 pm)
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Replying to: mac24 (Mar 26, 2007 10:38 am)

You're totally missing my point. You're talking from the dealers and/or DC point of view. Mine is from a consumers end. Paying sticker on a vehicle that will be worth 1/2 in 3 years is why one should not pay sticker. Unless you have a printing machine in your basement, that type of consumption is what BK courts are for. It's called being upside/down. Negative equity. Subprime market, etc..For starters rid the auto/dealer world of the coveted protections afforded them via the franchise laws. Allow the INFORMED consumer a fighting chance. As for those willing to be gorged by paying sticker I feel no pain for that type of compulsive buyer. There's one born every minute for sure and the auto world loves them. Maybe when Chrysler is bought out and these massive concessions kick in these Wrangler dealers will be selling shoes. Discount ones at that.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [jerrymcshane1] by mac24
Mar 26, 2007 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: jerrymcshane1 (Mar 26, 2007 12:55 pm)

You're totally missing my point
 
I don't think so, it's just that I disagree with you.
 
I try to see the whole picture rather than just the consumer's or the manufacturer's point of view. The economics are quite simple. If you want a product now that's in short supply/high demand don't expect to get it for peanuts. If you'd rather pay a lesser price, then wait awhile until demand drops/availability increases.
 
Depreciation is strongly linked to initial purchase price. Reducing it, either by a lower MSRP, rebates, employee pricing etc., etc., will immediately lower the corresponding resale values. Rolling over the negative equity from previous vehicles, and financing for long periods at high interest rates, have far more to do with being 'upside down' than purchasing at MSRP.
 
Dealers will happily sell you a Jeep at invoice when they can't sell one for more, or when it makes sense to do so in order to increase their volume of sales. I support the right of any dealer to decide his own selling price, just as I support the consumer's right to pay only the amount he thinks is reasonable.
 
However, the dealer is in a much more unenviable position than the consumer. After all, nobody has to buy a Jeep, but the dealer must sell them if he's to remain in business. It doesn't take long for the dealer to meet the demands of the marketplace. I've yet to hear of a customer being forced to buy a vehicle, and certainly not at a price he wasn't prepared to pay.
 
Finally, it is true that I'm not getting your last point: "Maybe when Chrysler is bought out and these massive concessions kick in these Wrangler dealers will be selling shoes." What are the massive concessions you refer to, and how are they going to affect Jeep dealers so negatively?
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [mac24] by tommyboy6
Mar 27, 2007 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Mar 26, 2007 4:39 pm)

I, along with about 90% of American car buyers, agree with this Jerry and his "take" on the dealers world. He speaks for the majority of us. For a dealer here to post is ridiculous. That's akin to giving the fox the key fob to the chicken house. Chrysler is indeed going to bought out by a private firm which will demand massive concessions from its workers. That's inevitable. Maybe the dealers will even lose their precious holdbacks in the process. Couldn't happen to a bigger bunch of arrogant losers. The Wrangler dealers asking sticker is pathetic. I too attempted to purchase an 07' and was livid at the arrogance of these ---holes. Only a dealer would post such myopic BS as mac24 has. Welcome to America.
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [mac24] by wheelsdown
Mar 27, 2007 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Mar 26, 2007 4:39 pm)

That does it Martin, I will never buy a new car from you.
 
Terry
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Re: Can I still order 07 Unlimited [wheelsdown] by nolid5
Mar 27, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: wheelsdown (Mar 27, 2007 11:45 am)

I still would but only if it's below invoice.

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