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Re: Market forces. [madhonda] by bigapple1
Jan 09, 2007 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: madhonda (Jan 02, 2007 7:48 am)

I ordered a 2007 Wrangler Rubicon, with the following options:
4 spd automatic, Paint-redrock crystal pearlcoat, Freedom 3 piece hardtop, Supp. front side airbags, Price..$26,620, + TTL, & Dealer document fee of $388.00.
The price is just under invoice which still gives the dealer a profit of over $1000.00. If any incentives come out by delivery date, I"ll still be eligible.
The dealer is in Scottsdale, AZ. I ordered it Oct. 21, 06, expect delivery in 2 weeks.
      Regards Al
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Re: Market forces. by dizzle65
Jan 09, 2007 (1:43 pm)
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Congrats on your purchase!!! You're gonna love that Rubi. However, $388 is insanely high for a doc fee. Most states have a law which limits the doc fee to $100 or so. In MI, where I live, the fee is capped at $170 by law.
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Re: Market forces. [dizzle65] by arizonajoe
Jan 09, 2007 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: dizzle65 (Jan 09, 2007 1:43 pm)

In Arizona, most dealers charge around $299 for the doc fee. Some are up in the $400 range.
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Re: Auto vs. Manual (Off-roading and acceleration) [dizzle65] by edf4
Jan 09, 2007 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: dizzle65 (Jan 08, 2007 8:00 am)

It really depends on personal choice and how you will be using your Jeep. I don't use mine for rock climbing, but the consensus among those who do seems to agree with your father: that an automatic is easier. One of the drawbacks to an automatic off road though, is you cannot roll backward to reset an approach, which you can do with a manual simply by pushing in the clutch, but that gain is offset by the advantage of not having to slip a clutch to crawl up and over obstacles. The best determinate is to go out and wheel in your Dad's Jeep and yours and see which you prefer: maybe you can swing a trade with cash if you each like the others' better!
 
As for acceleration, the auto comes with the 4.10 standard. That will give your X more off the line performance than you would have had with the 3.21 which comes with the manual on the X, (likely what your demo had) though you can get the 4.10 as an option. The 4.10 will give you better off the line acceleration, but gas mileage will suffer, and a bit more with the auto. Either way though, the 0-60 is at best 9 seconds.
 
Finally, a question: if you're going to add front and rear lockers, why didn't you get the Rubicon which has them standard and are covered under warranty? Suggestion: why not just get a winch and forget the lockers. The traction control and brake lock system that is standard on you X will help you out in 90% of the situtations you'll be in where a locker will help, and for the other 10%, the lack of lockers may result in your avoiding a situation where you get in over your head. A winch will always be there to help you out of trouble, where lockers may only get you in trouble. It will also win you friends off road.
 
I'm sure you will enjoy your X as much as I enjoy mine ('07 Unlimited X, pkg 24S, Silver, 6 sp., Freedom Top, Sirius w/ 6 disc CD/DVD, LSD, block heater, tow pkg, gas cap cover.
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Re: Market forces. [bigapple1] by jerrymcshane1
Jan 09, 2007 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: bigapple1 (Jan 09, 2007 1:32 pm)

So a dealer is actually selling these units for holdback only? I'm impressed but live too far from AZ. I wonder what the waiting time is now after full production has been reached? THANKS for the input though.
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Re: Auto vs. Manual (Off-roading and acceleration) [edf4] by dizzle65
Jan 10, 2007 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: edf4 (Jan 09, 2007 6:08 pm)

Thanks so much for your info. and suggestions. They are very helpful. My father has a D-90 (as in Land Rover Defender 90). That thing is perhaps the second least reliable vehicle that I know of (next to my '93 VW Corrado VR-6). I would not trade for a Defender (maybe for a new one if it ever hits the U.S. shores).
 
As far as not getting the Rubicon. There were a couple of factors: First, I got my fully loaded X at invoice ($21k plus change) and saved about $7K over a rubi with an auto. This extra money can be used later for serious upgrades like a winch, rack, rock rails, tires, wheels, and ARB air lockers which are superior to manually engaging diff locks. Second, insurance is quite a bit cheaper on my X. Third, I actually do not plan on doing much wheeling until my warranty expires, which will only happen in 3 yrs time!!
: ) : ( I probably will get the itch before then, though.
 
I got the auto because the Jeep will be my daily driver, I may occasionally tow something like a jet ski or two, and for the capability to crawl over obstacles off-road.
 
I just hope I don't get accused of not being a true "Jeepy" or "Jeepster" or whatever the lingo is amongst Jeep aficionados.
 
Once again, thanks
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Re: Auto vs. Manual (Off-roading and acceleration) [dizzle65] by mac24
Jan 10, 2007 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: dizzle65 (Jan 10, 2007 6:39 am)

........and ARB air lockers which are superior to manually engaging diff locks.
 
I'm not really sure what you mean. While ARB make an excellent locker they still have to be manually engaged, and when compared to the locker in the rear of the Rubicon it's the Rubicon that comes out on top. The ARB is either locked or open, while the Rubicon's rear is either locked or limited slip.
 
I just hope I don't get accused of not being a true "Jeepy" or "Jeepster" or whatever the lingo is amongst Jeep aficionados.
 
I don't know what it is either, but you won't go far wrong if you just remember the 'wave'!
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Re: Auto vs. Manual (Off-roading and acceleration) [mac24] by artieandgumbo
Jan 10, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Jan 10, 2007 8:48 am)

Since this is my first Wrangler, I've started to discover that you are expected to wave to other Jeep Wrangler drivers that you pass. I'm also getting used to people pointing saying "that's one of those new Jeeps" and "Boy it looks like the Hummer H3". I really didn't think my Black Sahara Unlimited with the hard top looked like the H3, but from a certain angle they do look a like.
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Re: Auto vs. Manual (Off-roading and acceleration) [artieandgumbo] by mac24
Jan 10, 2007 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: artieandgumbo (Jan 10, 2007 11:57 am)

I've started to discover that you are expected to wave to other Jeep Wrangler drivers that you pass.
 
Absolutely, and the consequences for not doing so are quite serious. In fact, if enough people report you for not waving you may have to return your Jeep to the dealership until you've passed a counseling class!
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Re: Auto vs. Manual (Off-roading and acceleration) [dizzle65] by edf4
Jan 10, 2007 (5:37 pm)
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Replying to: dizzle65 (Jan 10, 2007 6:39 am)

Your welcome. As for those who don't take their Jeep Wrangler's off road, the derogatory lingo I have heard is "mall cruisers". Personally I don't care how people enjoy their Jeeps, as long as they enjoy them, and DCX doesn't soften them up in a luxury sense, but keeps them true to their heritage, as I believe they did with the '07's.

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