Last post on Sep 08, 2013 at 7:27 PM
You are in the Prices Paid - Buying & Leasing Experiences
What is this discussion about?
Kia Sorento, SUV
#549 of 586 Re: 4 cylinder [lisa130]
Dec 21, 2012 (3:14 pm)
Here is a long and interesting discourse on GDI (Gasoline Direct Injection) engines:
GDI Problems In A Nutshell
Here's some basic info:
Wikipedia -- Gasoline direct injection
The "takeaway" for me is that until a particular manufacturer has a proven track record with their GDI engine(s), they are a potential risk in terms of problems after 50K or so miles (your mileage may vary).
I don't know about Kia's 4-cylinders, but as I mentioned earlier, we didn't want to buy the first Sorento model year (i.e., the 2014's) with a GDI V6 engine.
If you distill it out, the potential benefit of GDI engines is slightly more power and potentially significantlly lower emissions. GDI and the several variations appear to exploit more sophisticated techniques but with accompanying complexity and narrower tolerances. My personal choice is to avoid new complexities (OK once they're proven and stable) and seek greater tolerance.
#550 of 586 Re: quotes [flatontop]
Dec 21, 2012 (6:28 pm)
What a day! 2 Costco dealers and one 1 truecar dealer. First off Truecar, I talked to the sales manager and the $1000 savings was... you guessed it wrong, I only qualified for an additional $500 but that expired 12-17-12 so now Costco and Truecar price are the same to the penny. The 2 Costco dealers were about $55 different. Best price $26,970 EX V6 Premium package plus Calif state fees.
The price includes everything destination fees, dealer fees except what the cockroaches incharge of this state milk you for when buying a new car.
Flatontop, did this offer actually pan out? If so, what incentives did it include?
#551 of 586 Re: quotes [grefor]
Dec 22, 2012 (7:09 am)
grefor I'm still holding out, my problem was greed now it's mas greed in that I'm thinking about getting AWD although I don't need it where I live and if I had AWD more than likely I'd be 4x4ing in the desert, roll it over and die of thirst, then be eaten by coyotes and in the end my life would just be dog droppings. It wouldn't be the first car I've sat in upside down.
The price of $26,970 (EX V6 premium pack) still in place until 12-31-12 I've got the offer sheet in front of me.
I'm starting to get the feeling that the dealer monitors this board because a few days ago I said that one of the Costco dealers told me there was no more 5 seater models in the country and about 1 hour later the other Costco guy calls me up out of the clear blue to tell me there's a few heading to LA and one with the exact color scheme I wanted.
So with that said...... "Hey mister dealer man, I'll cut you a check for $26,550 for the FWD or $28,550 AWD EX V6 premium pack & trailer hitch" plus I'll put you on my Xmas card list.
I just can't let edl2 get the best price...
#552 of 586 bit the bullet
Dec 22, 2012 (10:39 am)
Well I went ot the Costco site and put in my info and decided to test drive one of these babies. I went to a non Costco dealer 10 miles away with no intention of buying. The V6 has a sweet ride and I was loving it.
The salesman was really nice and I told him I don't want to talk about MSRP. We went back and forth a bit and then I told him I could get it from Costco for $400-$500 under invoice. Sales manager came over and we haggled a bit more. I had a car to trade in that had minor issues and I told him what I wanted for that if I traded it in. To make a long story short I got a 6 cylinder EX AWD with the usual minor accessories for invoice less $2750 incentives ($1250 Competitor, $500 military, $1000 customer cash) and 0% APR.
I'm very happy with the vehicle even though I could have gotten it a little cheaper. The Costco dealership was one of a group that I have dealt with in the past. I bought a Nissan Maxima and Honda Odyssey from them and while I def got a great price, the agita was not worth it.
Great value on a solid vehicle with a lot of bells and whistles. Even my wife can back up with the rear camers display
#553 of 586 Re: bit the bullet [grefor]
Dec 26, 2012 (6:24 pm)
Hey grefor congratulations on your purchase....we have had ours for 2 months now and wife absolutely loves the car..same as you the V6 AWD EX..so glad went with the 6 cyl and the AWD ...you are right tons of bells and whistles for the money. We added the prem package because wanted the 3rd row and few other things that offered. Good luck
Dec 26, 2012 (8:38 pm)
Had our 2013 Kia Sorento SX AWD now for about two weeks and today we got hammered with over a foot of snow in a short period of time. The Sorento was a tank and plowed through it with ease. I had total control the whole time and the 6 speed Sportmatic transmission is very smooth. The sportmatic is great because it can be basically used as a clutch less manual transmission which is nice when the road conditions are bad. I am not at all regretting trading in our Acadia for this vehicle.
#555 of 586 Re: New Kia Update [megawatts74]
Dec 27, 2012 (9:01 am)
I know this isn't the right thread but what kind of mpg are you getting with you new AWD's? Still going back-n-forth about the FWD vs AWD. Still waiting for the last second deal. Choices are getting thin, not many AWD on the left coast, most are in black...deal breaker.
#556 of 586 Re: New Kia Update [flatontop]
Dec 27, 2012 (10:23 am)
Not great mileage..have the AWD V6..get about 18mpg...I think the MPG on the AWD vs FWD is just 1 mpg less
#557 of 586 Re: New Kia Update [flatontop]
Dec 27, 2012 (12:36 pm)
Well the first two tank fulls, I got between 18 and 19 MPG... that was actual. The computer said 19 to 20. But since then, it's been pretty cold and we have been starting the car up 10 to 20 minutes before we go so the MPG dropped to about 16-17. Don't let the MPG persuade you one way or another between the FWD and AWD. It's very minimal between the two from what I have heard and read. But it is really nice to have in the snow.
#558 of 586 Re: New Kia Mpg. Snow vrs hwy.
Dec 27, 2012 (2:44 pm)
MY SON HAS 2011 4cyl. I GET 24 HWY IN THAT AND 19. IN MANUAL SNOW AWD. I HAVE 2013 6 cyl AND AVG 23 mpg hwy AND 19 IN SNOW USING MANUAL AWD. WE HAVE NO OTHER ROADS WHERE WE LIVE EXCEPT COUNTRY ROADS AND HWY'S SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CITY IS LIKE. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY RED LIGHTS HERE. SO MY MPG IS PROB. BETTER THAN MOST.