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Re: Good deal or not??? [lev_berkovich #251] by farioler
Jun 10, 2004 (3:20 am)
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Replying to: lev_berkovich (Jun 05, 2004 9:04 am)

West coast Math... In NC sales tax is computed on difference between negotiated price and value of trade ($14,500 in this case)Does that help any? Trade was not even considered/ mentioned in the deal until after I negotiated the cash sales of vehicle. I had to remove dealer contact specifics per forum rules.
 
Here is a copy of text of e-mail where the negotiations began...
 
Loaded XC90 T6 for only $39,990
 
This very special sale is only until Friday, June 4th.
Look at everything that's included:
 
* Powerful and smooth 6-cylinder engine for added capabilities
* All Wheel Drive to handle any road conditions safely
* Premium Package (includes leather seats)
* Versatility Package (3rd row seats, etc.)
* Climate Package (including heated seats)
* Wood Steering Wheel
* Metallic Paint
Save close to $7000! ** Several colors to choose from!
 
Call Name Removed at 336-xxx-xxxx to choose yours today...
Internet Sales Manager
 
Direct Line: xxx-xxx-xxxx
Crown Volvo Toll Free: 1-xxx-xxx-xxxx
crownvolvo
Crown Volvo Greensboro NC
 Drive Safely....Drive a Volvo
 
I chose a unit with the options described in my original post and negotiated from there..
 
T6
 
White ( no extra for Paint)
 
Climate
 
Versatility
 
Premium
 
Wood Wheel
 
Back-up Alarm
 
Volvo Installed Receiver Hitch
 
sticker before hitch addition $46,000
 
Volvo Trailer Hitch List +$662 -$333 negotiated Discount on hitch-
 
Dealer Discount on vehicle $6,555 =
 
39,774 + tax & tag & and fees = $40,976
 
minus 14,500 trade = $25,274 => 3% tax 758.22
 
$45.00 tag
 
$399 processing fee totals $40976.22
 
enough detail?
 
(Vehicle sales tax is still just 3% also)
 
416 miles on vehicle
 
I just put the numbers down direct from deal sheet.
 
It doesn't matter if you believe or not, I was trying to be helpful and give what we are paying here on the South east cost.
 
 
RCF
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Re: Good deal or not??? [farioler #262] by lev_berkovich
Jun 10, 2004 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: farioler (Jun 10, 2004 3:20 am)

Absolutely,
 
A few details that change an entire picture:
 
What you have bought is more likely a showroom demo car, that is used for the test drives or the car that has been used internally in the dealership in some matter. That is why it has 416 miles on it.
 
Your original message describes the deal as a result of negotiation for the "fresh" stock item.
 
Now,
On my books, you can only be helpful if you describe the whole picture, and do not omit any details. I would be extremely disappointed, if I would "barge" into the dealership, "equipped" with your figures, demanding the same deal for the stock item, and getting a flat refusal. I would think that either I am a poor negotiator or the dealer is a jerk. And both would be wrong.
 
So, thanks for the clarification, it all makes perfect sense now.
I do believe in such deals.
 
As a matter of fact, I was able to buy my first brand new car, 1990 fully loaded with all the possible bells and whistles Nissan Stanza GXE, sticker price about 19,000 back then, for 13,500 - 13,700 (I could remember now) as a substitute for the stripped down XE (manual, AC only)that I was negotiating, because it was a showroom demo with about 1000 miles on it.
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Showroom demo or... by habitat1
Jun 10, 2004 (3:14 pm)
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..lemon buyback?
 
About 3 years ago, one of my business associates bought a Jaguar S type that spent about 90% of it's first 3-4 months in the dealer in an attmept to cure transmission and electrical problems. My associate (an attorney) got them to buy the vehicle back. I'm not sure if it went to court or they just settled, but the car ended up back on the dealer's lot and was being sold as a new car with 600 miles on it. They also sell Audi's, in case anyone wants to avoid this particular DC area dealership.
 
I would not want to paint all "new" vehicles with 400+ miles on the odometer with a wide brush, but before I would consider buying one, I would want a written disclosure by the dealership manager as to the vehicle's full history. Hell, there was even an article in the Washington Poast a few years ago of one DC area dealership trying to sell a car that had been in an accident in a test drive as a brand new car. Not a bright idea in a town full of lawyers.
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Still --- what IS a GOOD Deal???????????????? by dk-wa
Jun 10, 2004 (4:39 pm)
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I guess I still don’t understand “GOOD deals
 
 Should I expect a BELOW invoice deals to feel GOOD and if so HOW MUCH below invoice?
 
Should I expect to pay the Invoice Price to feel GOOD
 
Or is some price above the invoice, such as $ 500 above invoice, considered a fair or a GOOD deal for all parties That is both the Dealer & I???
 
 Please help I am loooking for the XC90 2.5
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Re: Still --- what IS a GOOD Deal???????????????? [dk-wa #265] by lev_berkovich
Jun 11, 2004 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: dk-wa (Jun 10, 2004 4:39 pm)

IMHO- if there is a Versatility package discount available - you can expect to pay under the dealer's invoice.
If this discount is not available - $500 - $700 over the dealer's invoice would be GOOD and anything bellow that would be EXCELLENT.
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Re: Still --- what IS a GOOD Deal???????????????? [lev_berkovich #266] by barryct
Jun 11, 2004 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: lev_berkovich (Jun 11, 2004 10:38 am)

Comment and question. From what I have seen on these boards it appears that anything below MSRP could be considered a "Good" deal. Some have done real well and have even been able to go below invoice. I would say that is less common and would characterize that as a "Great" deal. It was not too long ago that people were paying above MSRP. From what I have learned, there is always going to be someone out there that beat your deal, but did you feel good about yours at the time of sale, if so you did good.
 
My question is on the versatility promo. I was told that it was for the 2.5T FWD only. Is that true or are buyers getting that offer on all models of the XC90?
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Re: Still --- what IS a GOOD Deal???????????????? [barryct #267] by superbeagle
Jun 11, 2004 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: barryct (Jun 11, 2004 11:46 am)

I believe the versatility is available at least on all 2.5s and maybe the T6 as well. I have found in negotiating with a variety of dealers in the D.C. area that the package is not available if you take another offer. Thus, if you take advantage of the $2000 dealer lease cash, no free versatility ($1805 credit). Likewise, if you use the 2.9% 36 month financing offer, no free versatility as well.
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Re: Good deal or not??? [lev_berkovich #263] by farioler
Jun 11, 2004 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: lev_berkovich (Jun 10, 2004 9:58 am)

First my apologies to all for a typo in my follow up post.
In my haste to defend myself I had typed all the dealer info in the post which was removed from the board by the moderator so I had to re write
I added the mileage but it was 216 not 416 sorry.
Now once more for the record.. I received and e-mail from the dealer showing an advertised price for and XC 90 equipped as follows:
 
Loaded XC90 T6 for only $39,990
* Powerful and smooth 6-cylinder engine for added capabilities
* All Wheel Drive to handle any road conditions safely
* Premium Package (includes leather seats)
* Versatility Package (3rd row seats, etc.)
* Climate Package (including heated seats)
* Wood Steering Wheel
* Metallic Paint
Save close to $7000! ** Several colors to choose from!
 
Note Several to choose from not just one..by the way several meant five in this case....
 
I chose a white one, sitting right next to five others all equipped with a minimum of the options listed above and some had a few more such as the folding mirrors, back up alarm etc.
So whether I got a few bucks off for a 216 mile vehicle I dont' know but I do know it was new plastic on the rear seats etc.
I only wished to do what I thought this forum was for was to post prices paid in addition to that I have given all anyone would need to contact the Crown Volvo dealer in Greensboro NC. It won't be too hard to figure out what to do from there. They only have one internet sales person so feel free to describe the deal and go from there...
I have nothing to gain or lose here just trying to be helpful.
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Re: Good deal or not??? [farioler #269] by bsk
Jun 11, 2004 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: farioler (Jun 11, 2004 12:10 pm)

Farioler,
 
The 216 miles could have come if the vehicle was originally sent to another dealership and they "traded" with your dealership for a certain color or configuration that your dealership had. A sales person would have driven that vehicle to the other dealership and returned in your vehicle. If there is another Volvo dealership about 200 miles away, that may be what occurred.
 
My wife and I bought our first car about 13 years ago (a Mazda) and our dealership did not have what exactly we wanted, but was able to find one at another dealership about 100 miles away. They "traded" vehicles (I'm not sure if any compensation was exchanged) and drove one of their vehicles up there and returned with ours. As I recall it had 112 miles on it when we picked it up.
 
I don't know if that explains the 216 on your vehicle, but it might.
 
Anyway, it sounds like you got a very good deal. Enjoy your XC90!
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XC-90 Lease negotiation/ X- Plan Results by hhangler
Jun 11, 2004 (1:15 pm)
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I just finished negotiating a 48 mo lease on a 2.5, but I didn't sign yet. This is the base model, the only option is metallic paint (Ash Gold). The MSRP to start out on is $35,925. I thought it was supposed to be lower than that for only the paint, but it looks like they added the $685 dest. fee to the total. The X-Plan discount was $1449 off of the MSRP, which the dealer said was 4% over invoice which is standard on the XC-90. The lease is with $0 down, only 1st months payment plus tax/tag/title. Residual value is 48%. The $2000 lease incentive brings the cost down to $32,476. Then they added $909 in capped fees (What are these?) to arrive at a Adj. cap cost of $33,385. The lease payment is $434.00/month with 12K miles. Anything here I need to know? Thanks!

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