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Replying to: bryangmd (Oct 11, 2006 12:17 pm) Think about this for a minute. Car dealers are the very epitome of capitalists. They have their own money on the line 24/7 trying to figure out what will sell. Clearly, if you can't find an XC90 configured as you described, it isn't a cabal ("having issues") against you but rather the dealer's recognition that with all these options the car is at a rareified price point. So high, that the car ain't going to sell. This should tell you something. At this price point, you should buy a Cayenne S for fun or an Audi Q7 (a stretched Cayenne) to haul a hockey team. You'll get a car worthy of the price point and because of the higher price point a better dealer experience and resale.
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Volvomax, you're a savvy guy. In my experience there is a wide range of quality with Volvo dealers. Wider than other imported marques. The sales and service departments vary tremendously. Some are good. Some bad. Even worse, some are bad just on a random basis. Even the physical plants vary with no consisent Volvo look. Is Volvo aware of this? Are they working on it? To me this unevenness is an impediment to moving the brand upscale. Why buy an XC90 with an MSRP of 57K when.....
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Oct 12, 2006 5:52 pm) They assumed that higher gas prices would dampen demand. Well, it really hasn't. Since Volvo got a late start on the 07's not many loaded cars are available. There are some out there, maybe your dealer could trade for one. |
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Oct 12, 2006 6:12 pm) However, Volvo does encourage and entice dealers to perform up to standards. For alot of dealers it is a catch-22. They can't expand their facilities or offer top quality amenities without spending money, and they can't spend money without selling more cars AND making more profit per copy. If you compare the revenue streams of a Lexus, Mercedes and Volvo store its like comparing the Yankees, Red Sox and KC Royals. Even though most Volvo stores are at a competitive disadvantage they do provide good service to their customers. Its just that the bad ones get the press. Esp here on the web. Volvo dealers have done well on the JD Power dealer survey over the years. Now, the $57k XC90 is the best SUV out there at that price point. You can't get an X5 or Q7 or ML500 as nice for the same money. Forget about the Cayenne or Range Rover.
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 17, 2006 9:34 am) I think we disagree on the value of 57K XC90s. I think that the market does also.
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 17, 2006 9:34 am) With $57k, you can get a nicely equipped Mercedes GL450. XC90 is nice, but $57k for a Volvo is just ridiculous.
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Replying to: kiiwii (Oct 18, 2006 4:27 pm) $57k is a fully loaded XC90 V8. The equivalent GL450 is $66,000! FWIW, you can get a "nicely equipped" XC90 V8 for $50,000
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Replying to: volvomax (Oct 19, 2006 9:08 am) 1. You can get a nicely equipped V8 for $50k - it already comes with leather, AWD, & 3rd row as standard. 2. $57k for Volvo is ridiculous. I wouldn't pay more than $50k for a Volvo. I think the right price point for a fully loaded V8 should be around $48k, and $42-43 for the 3.2L. It just isn't in the same league as the German cars when it comes to the powertrain, etc.
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Replying to: fluid15 (Oct 19, 2006 10:20 am) How so? It is as fast or faster than the SUV's near or higher than its price point. It rides well without being harsh. You can't get a Euro SUV will all the equipment the XC90 has for even a close to similar price. How is a $66,000 Mercedes or Audi or Bimmer better than a $57,000 XC90? |
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