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#117 of 221 Re: 2007 Impala SS [jfritsch]
Dec 29, 2006 (8:41 pm)
Today I faxed about 33 dealers. I realized after the fact that I might have left out some info, but the letter basically went like this.
My name is _______ and I am looking to purchase a 2007 Impala SS at a price of $24,350.00. My first color option is Black on Black with the second Color option being White (Interior not important). Please call me directly at 999-999-9999 if you can facilitate this request.
I realized after the fact that I forgot to mention MSRP and options (Although every impala I have seen seems fairly loaded and they are all about the 30,000-31,000 MSRP.
Then looking at your post I probably should have left out the price and seen how low the low ballers would have gone.
Good news is, I have received about 10 voicemails (I was at work and could not answer the phone) and alot of the dealers left lengthy messages such as
"We have the exact model you are looking for, please call"
"I can get almost the exact price you are looking for"
"Please call by tomorrow at 11am and I will give you the best price in the tri state area"
Amazing. Some others sounded more like they were willing to offer me that price or at least very close! All this after negotiating face to face with Curry Chevrolet down the street from where I work and the best they would do was $27,800 after rebate, Tomorrow I will call everyone back and see how serious each one is about guaranteeing this price before I drive to pick up the car. If I can get a 2007 ss for anywhere in the $24-25 range, I will be ecstatic!
I will let you know how it turns out.
#118 of 221 Re: 2007 Impala SS [newcarforme]
Dec 30, 2006 (4:43 am)
Remember, if they really are killing themselves to sell it to you for 24000 or so, you have offered to much. Thats why you never name a price.
Also remember the car depreciates about 12k or so off list 1st year,(unfortunately its terrible in this regard) so $7000 or so off msrp isn't doing you any great favor. Personally I would have a (undisclosed) target of 20 to 23 k for a 30000 SS. Your timing now should limit the number of dealers (severely) yanking your chain, but quickly dispose of them.
Call them back, tell them you have some "pretty low" bids (this will make up for your price breach of etiquitte)and to give me your best shot. Tell them your time is valuable and thats why you got 30 bids. See how much into the low 20s you can get and maybe surprise yourself. Wait for callbacks if possible (give your cell if you have one)
This red tag deal ends jan 2 I believe so you may have a few more days (although I wouldn't bet my life on it) End of Jan may be excellent too though.
If you wind up driving far get the VIN, and all the numbers worked out straight from the sales mgrs mouth. And goose him into faxing you the paperwork to review if possible.
#119 of 221 Re: 2007 Impala SS [jfritsch]
Dec 30, 2006 (8:50 am)
For what it's worth, last year I bought an 06 in the Red Tag Event. Later, in March or about that time, they lowered the sticker price and offered a full $2K to those with GM cards, regardless of how much they had accrued. That deal would have beaten the deal I got under the Red Tag. I know that doesn't help a lot in your current situation but thought I'd offer it up.
Dec 30, 2006 (2:48 pm)
Sooo bad news. I called 4-5 dealers back, the one that looked most promising, used my down payment against me.
He states he would get me an OTD price of $25,435. Problem is, that's after my $4,000 down payment. Maybe I should have left that little factoid out. I didn't realize this until I asked him to fax over to me the breakdown. He's offering the car to me at $28,100 - $1,000.00 cash back, final price $27,100 for a car in which the MSRP is $31,100.
The other 2-3 I called back and got a hold of didn't budge from from invoice. Now I haven't spoken to all the dealers yet, and a few seemed to have started their vacation a bit early, but my phone isn't exactly ringing off the hook. It seems as most of the dealerships are taking my fax as a lead and almost ignoring my asking price.
Maybe I'm better off going to my local dealer and just negotiating for 2-3 hours and getting close to the price I want. Or, I can wait till next month and try again?
PS: From what I have seen , $27,100 (Before taxes) is one of the better prices for a fully loaded 2007 Impala SS. I don't know if 7 - 10 thousand off MSRP is realistic.
#121 of 221 Re: 2007 Impala SS [quietpro]
Dec 30, 2006 (2:55 pm)
Thanks for the heads up. I might have to look in to this "GM Card". How much did you pay for your SS?
#122 of 221 Re: 2007 Impala SS [newcarforme]
Dec 30, 2006 (4:10 pm)
I'm not exactly proud of my purchase price with my SS, especially if some of the deals listed on this forum are true. Based on my trade ($1K over trade value), I paid $27K. In my defense, I'm terrible once I get the new car bug. For that reason, I avoid dealerships like the plague. Unfortunately, last year my sister asked me to help her shop and I thought I'd be fine since it was HER car I was shopping for. But, once I heard that sweet sounding V-8, I just couldn't resist. I made my deal in one day without shopping other dealers. Hindsight is 20/20, right?
As for the GM card, there are two versions. One gives you 5% and the other 3% and I think airline miles. The money earned is good toward the purchase of new cars and I THINK certified used cars. Most cars have a maximum of $2K toward their purchase price but some of the pricier models go a little higher (Caddys and Hummers). The deal they offered last year gave you the full $2K regardless of how much you had earned. I use my card for everything I can, pay it in full each month, and manage to earn about $1K per year. Of course, GM gets what they want since I'm more likely to buy a GM.
One thing I wanted to mention about the SS...it's a "problem" I'm currently having but it is pretty minor. It seems the suspension is the same for all trim levels and that seems to be a problem with the heavier SS. Although the front suspension felt very nice for the first few months, it seems to have loosened up or broken in and is now a bit bouncy. I have only been able to compare it to my sister's 3LT (3.9L) but her's rides much better in my opinion. I know you don't need any other stress in your decision but I thought I should mention it. Otherwise, I really love the car and this issue, like I stated before, is minor.
#123 of 221 Re: 2007 Impala SS [newcarforme]
Dec 30, 2006 (4:59 pm)
You can give it a try end of Jan. if you want. (The impala SS isn't going to disappear) In general December is not the great month most people think it is, with a lot of year end spending by business and such.
With this much activity and the advertising for the red tag deal and such, they may have too much traffic to screw with you. Also try faxing or emailing tuesday or mid week end of month. Weekends are busy. Call the chickie at the desk and get the Sales Mgrs personal fax # (many have one) the general # is where faxes might get wastecanned.
Jan and Feb are probably the best (for this years model, July and August for previous years with new intros)
However if it winds up the same (about $3500 off)you may probably have to eat 7-8k 1st year on your purchase. Not great but you may really really want an SS.
#124 of 221 Re: 2007 Impala SS [jfritsch]
Dec 30, 2006 (9:33 pm)
Yeah. I've got to make a decison by tommorrow morning. Do I go to the dealership and try to knock and additional few hundred off this $27,100.
Do I wait for the middle of January, or end of the month?
Or do I just look up the 06's still on various lots and have a more realistic chance of getting that car for $22-23 Thousand.
We'll see what happens but I am ready to buy.
#125 of 221 Re: 2007 Impala SS [newcarforme]
Dec 31, 2006 (6:08 am)
I don't think the SS is going anywhere. Since you seem to be summing up options it seems the need isn't urgent.
I would try last week of Jan. (or feb) It may be that that SS medallion and a bigger engine will cost you. There are tons of 40 somethings who couldn't get or had a Malibu or Impala SS in the 70s who the dealers may get to pay up for it. That and the fact that only about 10% of them are in SS trim, and the dealers can work them. Probably doesn't work with the cobalt SS though. Just the 70's nostalgia.
I'm tempted to think this, though it drops like a rock on the wholesale market, which shows a weak demand for the SS used. (perhaps supply=demand only for itchy ones like us who want it new?)
Try getting quotes on the LT3 package too. You can get the trunk louvre, etc on it also. If perhaps the best deal you can work is $6000+ or so off (a lower)MSRP for an appropriate Lt3 or $3500-4000 off MSRP for a SS you have a decision to make. (a lot cheaper, and that 3.9 v6 is pretty good) LT probably only depreciates 10k or so off list instead of around 12k, so the situation may be much better in that regard too.
I have the glossy sales brochure for the 06, perhaps you should acquire the 07 brochure and look at the trim chart.
Only the competitive bids will reveal the situation.
So it boils down to economics or life's short....
#126 of 221 Re: 2007 Impala SS [newcarforme]
Dec 31, 2006 (7:12 pm)
Well I pulled A CR Price sheet on my 2007 LTZ and as equipped stated to offer 23,800 on the 27,000 MSRP. I had one dealer bite at that offer 23,799.50 with all fee's and then lowered another 2,000 with my GM credits (21,799.50) and if I would known of the other hidden Manuf to Dealer regional rebate of an additional 750.00 .. I would have asked for another 500.00 - 700.00 off from offer price. Next I pulled a CR Price sheet on a 2007 SS equipped with Sunroof They are showing to offer 26,100.00 but assuming the regional rebate is the same as in my area, I would offer 25,500.00 with all fee's included(not including T,T&L) on an SS with a MSRP of 30,000.00. The Dealer would have to eat the price of any Dealer installed options he had on it, as I never pay for those. With the dealer getting your 1,000 rebate plus the regional Incentive, plus any other hidden incentives, you would be getting a good price, while he is still gets a fair profit. Good Luck