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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Nov 20, 2007 3:06 pm) My snow day xB even has some torque steer but with a lot less ponies under the hood not enough to bother me. Cars should be RWD or at least AWD - once you have driven performance RWD cars getting in any FWD is a compromise and it really "glares" in the S with a manual tranny. If you are used to FWD then it just more of the same and may not bother you as much. Good thing I didn't drive the demo with all the JCW stuff on it  . Dennis
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Replying to: dwynne (Nov 20, 2007 4:46 pm) I understand the differences - I've gone from two BMW 330is (e46 ZHP 6MT, e90 ZSP 6MT) in a row to a R56 Cooper S 6MT. I didn't experience any torque steer with a Mazdaspeed3 but then again, unlike in a RWD car, I won't punch WOT unless I'm over 15-20 mph because quite frankly WOT in a powerful FWD car is pretty illogical. Heck, even in a cheese Chevy rental with a 4 pot and 4-speed auto WOT from a standstill can attempt to wrench the wheel. I'm not a FWD fan - as I clearly stated in my original post to you - but I don't think it's the least bit difficult to retrain your foot to massage the throttle from a standstill. Hell, you have to enter corners in a totally different way too. Press the S-button, massage the throttle, brake extremely late into corners...part of the R56 driving experience and 180 degrees from pushing an S2000 hard. You can't use the throttle to steer with a FWD...unless you want to end up in a ditch. |
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Nov 20, 2007 2:54 pm) For me to get my car serviced I schedule it weeks in advance and take the car in at the for 7 am on a Saturday and either get a loaner or go for a really, really long walk. So you are in about the same position I am in, distance wise. Is it worth going through all that for it?
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Replying to: tiff_c (Nov 21, 2007 12:44 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Nov 21, 2007 1:10 am) Thanks, I've heard some horror stories and if something bad happens it's a lot of back and forth. I agree it shouldn't need much if all is well with it. |
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I would like to thank MINI for finally chasing me off...I have been tinkering on their website for months building a MINI. I would love to own a MINI, but they have officially priced them out of reach. I was waiting for 2008 changes, and I just built a new model and discovered they had changed their packages and inflated option prices (as if they were not outrageous to begin with). I can now buy a Lexus IS for the same price I can build a MINI and have a dealership in town. Their pricing is nuts. I am all about a fun car and something different than the neighbors, but $2k for leather? $1K for bluetooth? Maybe MINI hasn't heard, but technology is cheap, labor is expensive. I love the MINI's, but common sense may prevail with my next purchase.
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Replying to: njay1 (Nov 21, 2007 9:50 am) Lexus IS250 - V6 RWD Cannot be ordered to spec Similar horsepower to the Mini, but 500+ lbs of extra weight Expensive maintenance from day one Decent resale Hard to find a manual Soft suspension/handling Luxury car features Luxury ride Semi-Luxury branding Bottom model of the brand Cooper S Turbo 4 Included maintenance for the first few years, expensive thereafter FWD Exceptional resale totally customizable Cult-like brand Little to no luxury Exceptional handling Harsh ride Great gas mileage The cars/brands are designed and marketed to very different personality types/market segments. Heck, throw in an Eos and complete the trifecta of cars in massively different segments being forced to compete. 
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Nov 21, 2007 10:58 am) Two completely different segments, MINI in the "cult-like" brand with small car performance, no luxury, and good mileage bumping up to entry luxury car costs. Trust me, I would love to buy a MINI...I would like to think it fits my personality more than a Lexus, but I do want some things I consider basics such as leather, a sunroof, wheels. I am glad to see that car companies realize their is a market for people who don't need bigger cars, but still want to be able to have nice features, etc. rather than buying Hondas. But am having a real hard time pulling the trigger on a $30K MINI. |
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Replying to: njay1 (Nov 21, 2007 1:23 pm) Where are you finding an IS250 for only 30k? For that price, that IS250 lacks a sport package and xenon headlights - two things you're definitely finding in a Mini for 30k. Like I said, they're different types of cars aimed at an entirely different segment. |
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