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Re: Ordered our Mini in Ohio [photoman3] by dwynne
Nov 12, 2007 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: photoman3 (Nov 11, 2007 9:50 am)

Pretty sad state of affairs when we have to brag about getting $500 off full price . How much is the dealer's doc fee? That probably made up for a large chunk of the $500 savings, I would bet .
 
The main thing is you got to order the colors and options you want and DID get some discount. Enjoy your new car when it arrives.
 
Dennis
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True Cost to Own? by tiff_c
Nov 13, 2007 (11:23 am)
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I hope this is the correct forum for this question. If not feel free to move it.
I am wondering about Edmunds True Cost to own. The Depreciation has a graphic with a slider bar
$--------^---------$$$
Now the way I see it is if you have $------------------^$$$
You LOSE less at resale
If you have $-^-----------------$$$
You lose More
But the Mini always has terrific resale value and I figure I must be incorrect. can some one set me straight?
Which is more preferable for depreciation the ^ to be more towards the $$$ or the $?
Is that confusing enough?
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Re: True Cost to Own? [tiff_c] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 13, 2007 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Nov 13, 2007 11:23 am)

That's a really good question.. To me, the graph reads that the more the arrow is to the right ($$$).... the higher the depreciation (which is bad).
 
    I think they are looking at the raw number on depreciation, not a percentage. So, even though the MINI might retain a higher percentage of the purchase price, it's depreciation rating is not any better than it's lower priced competitor, because of the actual depreciation in dollars.
 
But, I can look at two different cars, whose raw depreciation numbers are similar, and they have two very different ratings, so I'm at a loss to explain why.
 
Does that help?
kyfdx
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Re: True Cost to Own? [kyfdx] by tiff_c
Nov 14, 2007 (12:32 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 13, 2007 5:52 pm)

That's a really good question.. To me, the graph reads that the more the arrow is to the right ($$$).... the higher the depreciation (which is bad).
 
Yeah that's how I'm reading it too, but I'd like to see Edmunds make it clearer so that $$$ = bad $ = Good
Something like this
Depreciation
$Good----------^----------$$$Bad
since it's in the middle in this case it's average.
It just doesn't make sense with some cars tho. Honda Civics are rated average to worse than average yet they sell very well and don't lose a lot of money from new so that means they should be closer to the $--^-----------$$$
end of the scale but very few cars actually are.
I'm baffled.
Maybe Edmunds can clear it all up by changing it to
 
                Depreciation
Screwed---------^-------Great!
 
Something so that we know which end of the graph is the one we want to be on.
 
Thanks for your explanation
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Buying a MINI- Do i buy a car from the lot or order online? by bijoubaby05
Nov 18, 2007 (4:28 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Nov 14, 2007 12:32 am)

i am excited about buying a mini and i need to know what dealers in los angeles that are willing to deal.
 
most of them are nightmares!
 
also, i want to know what a good buy $ is on a minicooper s
auto
black or white
premium package
comfort package
 
any good ideas?
 
monthy payments?
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options on the mini by tica
Nov 18, 2007 (7:40 am)
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your question is a little unclear, but if you are asking which options are good--I can weigh in. I bought the car off the lot so it had more options than I thought I needed/wanted. And it turns out I was introduced to some that I love and others that I thought that I wanted that I totally wouldn't want now.
 
EXCELLENT OPTIONS:
comfort access, autodim mirror and automatic headlights--all excellent and you'll be glad you ahve them. the rearview mirror in particular, it doesn't make things smaller liek it does when you just flip the mirror,
 
bluetooth is GREAT--when it works. Although I can always hear perfectly, people I speak to say the quality is terrible. and I've called my own answering machine and left a message and it is pretty bad. If this improves it's worth it, if not..it's a feature that's helpful in an emergency but I end up not calling people because they complain about the quality--it drives them crazy, the static/in-out reception etc.
 
UNNECESSARY
fancy steering wheel. I never use the steering wheel--or rarely. since all the radio info is about two inches away from your right hand it's easier just to do it all from the radio/stereo buttons. both for the phone and the stereo controls it's MUCH easier to just do it all from the radio--and it's not like it's a stretch==you're in a mini
 
I never use cruise control. I don't know if you still have it without this steering wheel, but when I"m on the highway, I like to monitor my speed myself anyway.
 
arm rest: I was all gungho on the arm rest but it's such a TERRIBLE armrest, it's not worth the 200 bucks. IT's too low to 'rest' on, and the storage is terrible. Maybe one of those aftermarket armrests you can buy are bigger and better, this one is useless
 
fancy colors on the inside. I have interesting details--chrome mirrors, some color stuff on the insdie of the car. at first this was nice, now I hardly notice it' unless you are totally into the details, not worth the extra money, the car is already cute as it is.
 
sunroof--I hate my sunroof and I would not get one again. when you are on the highway, you can hear wind noise coming out of it--the car would be nice and quiet without that, and it doesn't block the sun during the summer--so you get uv rays on your face--if you want to avoid wrinkles like me, this is a pain. I ended up putting some cardboard between the net thinga nd roof to block the light all the summer anyway. I rarely use it and when I do I really can't tell a difference. You get more of a 'wind' feeling from rolling down the windows.
 
As far as being more spacious inside, the car is already roomy, so unless you are VERY tall in your seat, I can't see how the sunroof makes much of a difference. Also, since I live in NYC, the last thing I want to do is ride around town sucking in more pollution into my lungs by being more exposed to traffic.
 
I have the basic mini, not an S. I have not driven an S but the mini is just fine for highway. It goes faster than I intend often--like suddenly I'm at 80 before I realized it, so I don't feel like there is a lack of power. I'm a girl and not a car person so I'm no expert. But, really, the basic seems like plenty of zippiness.
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Re: Buying a MINI- Do i buy a car from the lot or order online? [bijoubaby0 by tica
Nov 18, 2007 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: bijoubaby05 (Nov 18, 2007 4:28 am)

oh, and in retrospect I wish I had gotten stripes of some sort. At first I thought they were too tacky. but then the mini is like such a little toy car and so cute, it reallyd oes call out for stripes! I may return this one after my 1 year lease and buy a new one and if so I'll probably get stripes.
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Re: Buying a MINI- Do i buy a car from the lot or order online? [bijoubaby0 by blueguydotcom
Nov 18, 2007 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: bijoubaby05 (Nov 18, 2007 4:28 am)

No dealer will waver much. You can get msrp at some if you push.
 
Good deal on a Cooper S is a bit off MSRP - great deal is $500 off MSRP. Just order your mini.
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Re: options on the mini [tica] by jaxs1
Nov 18, 2007 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: tica (Nov 18, 2007 7:40 am)

There is probably something wrong with the bluetooth on your car if you have frequent problems. I use the bluetooth built in to my portable nav without complaints, so one built into a car should be better, not worse.
 
Most people are going to want cruise control unless all they do is drive in the city. It makes long highway trips much more comfortable.
Its also nice to keep both hands on the wheel while driving even if the radio is within arms reach.
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buying a MINI- which options are best? by bijoubaby05
Nov 19, 2007 (12:03 am)
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im sorry if wasn't clear in my other posting.
 
i am looking for an automatic minicooper S 2008 or 2007 (which year is recommended? 2008 is pricer for a mini cooper S options)
 
I am also looking for a list of options i should consider.
 
i live in Los Angeles.... so, do i need a sunroof?
 
I'm considering a premium package, i love the comfort package with the key less access key. my questions is: do i need this stuff? leather or leatherette or cloth? dynamic suspension necessary?
 
i am trying to keep this car as close to 24,000 as possible as it is my budget.
 
i am also considering the MINI Select option. Is this form of financing recommended? why or why not?
 
what colors look best, stripes combo? i love the white but i worry its too bland. black, i worry would get me killed on the fwy at night.
 
I've decided that long beach mini is the best deal for me. I'll let the forum know how that goes.
 
i did, however, go to assal mini in Monrovia for a test drive (that i had to push to get). and the ppl there don't know what they're doing and the sales manager is an asshole. first, they told me that i couldn't order a 2007 anymore, which i can. secondly, they insulted my budget set for this car and then offered to throw in free mats. then, the sales manager pretended not to know what a mini select is.  
 
i took the sales managers card. when i get my wonderful deal, I'll call him and let him know what i exactly think of him. maybe ill call tomorrow
 
so, ppl of the forum, i would really appreciate some input. I need help to buy my first car!

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