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Looking at purchasing a 2007 MC by holt07
Jun 29, 2007 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: gopguyca (Apr 11, 2005 10:31 am)

Hi Everyone,
 
Just trying to get some feedback. My husband and I are just starting our Mini search. We are looking to get an 07 just basic with a few perks. My husband is looking for a fun car that has great gas mileage. I have been seeing that the Mini's really never sell below invoice, I was wondering if that is true for those paying cash as well? We aren't rich, just decided to take a second mortage out for the car and some other stuff. Also our local mini dealer is on Ebay, anyone ever do this?
 
We are in Baltimore, MD and would use Towson Mini/BMW.
 
Thanks!
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Re: Looking at purchasing a 2007 MC [holt07] by 07mcs
Jun 29, 2007 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: holt07 (Jun 29, 2007 6:29 am)

Contact Habberstadt Mini in Long Island, NY. I researched the entire east coast before placing my order for a custom 2007 Cooper S with them - their deal was WAY below anyone. This is our 2nd Mini Cooper since 2002. Great car!
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Re: Looking at purchasing a 2007 MC [holt07] by ody02tjk
Jun 29, 2007 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: holt07 (Jun 29, 2007 6:29 am)

We are in the Towson/Lutherville area as well, and have been shopping for a fun 3rd car that gets great gas mileage. A MINI Convertible is our top choice, but we decided to go used to save some $. That being said, I have found that there are better deals to be had with MINI dealers in the DC metro area. There is more competition in that area, & they will negotiate some. MINI of Towson, and MINI of Belair are owned by the same dealership group, and will not negotiate below the other's prices. The fact that these dealers are selling on Ebay tells me that they are trying to get premium prices from all over. I just had to replace my Lexus last month(it was totalled), and seriously looked at a BMW X5. BMW of Towson was the least likely to negotiate, and I found much better deals from BMW dealers around DC. I hope this helps, and please post your feedback on where you buy.
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Re: Is this a good deal? [imgdoc] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 29, 2007 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: imgdoc (Jun 29, 2007 4:20 am)

One thing that is affecting your money factor.. is the acquisition fee waiver. This isn't free. It adds .00035 to the money factor. Usually, this would be a bad deal, but on a short lease, it can sometimes be cheaper than adding the $625 fee to the CAP cost.
 
That stated, I agree with blueguy... the MINI is a car you want to buy, rather than lease..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Is this a good deal? [kyfdx] by imgdoc
Jun 29, 2007 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 29, 2007 8:45 am)

Thanks kyfdx,
Do you advice using MINI select program or regular financing?
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Re: Is this a good deal? [imgdoc] by blueguydotcom
Jun 29, 2007 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: imgdoc (Jun 29, 2007 1:55 pm)

Regular financing - look to a credit union as BMWFS' current rate is not that special.
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Re: Is this a good deal? [blueguydotcom] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 29, 2007 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jun 29, 2007 2:00 pm)

Ditto.. Those balloon finance programs usually come with high interest rates..
 
Finance for 60 months at the lowest rate you can find.. You may pay out a little more over the next 24 or 36 months, but you'll be ahead, once you sell the car...
 
Generally, I'm a fan of leasing... but, it has to make good financial sense.. in this case, I vote against it.
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Leasing vs buying - is leasing 07 MCS really that bad? by 07mcs
Jun 29, 2007 (2:26 pm)
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2007 MCS Lease Pricing:
 
MSRP $25,500
Out-of-Pocket including first month payment: $2500
Payment: $291/35 months/36K miles/69% residual
 
Total paid in 3 years (less $300 deposit) = $12,385
Residual after 3 years = $17,595
 
Is that worse than financing if you buy and sell the car at lease end? Really?
 
I had a 2004 MC with Residual (62%) $13,200.
Total paid in 3 years was $11,745.
Bought at lease end and sold for $16,800 within 10 days. Cost of leasing for 3 years came out to be $8145.
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Need help assesing this lease by backstep222
Jul 08, 2007 (8:32 am)
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New to leasing and kind of baffled by it. Not sure if I am getting a decent deal here. If anyone can comment, I'd appreciate your input. Here are the terms...
'07 Mini Cooper S
Auto Trans.
Sport Pkg. (w/ web spoke wheels & perf. tires)
Premium Pkg.
Chrome mirrors, center arm rest, rear fog lamps, piano black dashbord
MSRP - $27,590 Selling price- $27,000 (JCW matts thrown in) 3 yr. lease/ 36K miles
$2500 total down... payment $345/mo. I'm bothered by the fact that they will not disclose the "money factor" (I have excellent credit....score 841 !!) Not sure how to translate it into an interest rate even if they divulged it to me. Am I getting hosed here?
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Re: Need help assesing this lease [backstep222] by blueguydotcom
Jul 08, 2007 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: backstep222 (Jul 08, 2007 8:32 am)

Does that price for the payments include tax? And demand to know the residual and money factor. As far as I know it's illegal not to disclose those numbers to you. Check the fed and state laws but I think some kind of truth in lending law requires that the information be given to you. It should be clearly stated on the contract too!
 
EDIT: Can't find a law but I'd tell them you'll sign when they reveal the source of their numbers. There's zero reason for them to hide those numbers.
 
At the very least you can use leaseguide, your purchase price, payments, down payment and residual to figure the money factor.

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