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#73 of 1111 No "doc fee". by mfullmer Jul 11, 2004 (8:59 am)
I never stated this was a "doc fee". All I am going on is experience and every car I've bought in Georgia - Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Chevrolet, Lexus and now MINI has a Dealer Prep fee. They have all ranged around $550 or so.   Am I saying that this cannot be negotiated? No. Am I saying that this isn't a charge that goes directly to the dealer? No.   All I'm saying is that this is not part of the "Purchase Price". Yes, it is part of the "Total Paid" but not the "Purchase Price". My original post, lest it be forgotten, stated that the "Purchase Price" was MSRP.
#74 of 1111 by markjenn Jul 12, 2004 (9:10 pm)
The "dealer prep" fee is a simple dealer profit add-on and is NOT standardized or universally charged at all. It goes by many names:   + dealer prep + doc fee + ADM (additional dealer markup) + market adjustment   and others.   It doesn't matter what they call it, ANY fee above and beyond MSRP + state tax/title/license is an additional dealer profit fee by definition, nothing more, nothing less. You didn't pay MSRP, you paid MSRP + $600. If you're happy with the deal, then that's fine, but you can't say you purchase price was MSRP because it was MSRP + $600.   - Mark
#75 of 1111 I HAVE NOT PAID OVER MSRP!!!! by mfullmer Jul 13, 2004 (11:22 am)
First off, I haven't even gotten or purchased my MINI yet, it is ordered. I fully intend to negotiate that Dealer Prep fee down.   I KNOW MY EXPERIENCE HERE IN ATLANTA SO UNLESS YOU HAVE PURCHASED SEVERAL VEHICLES HERE THEN YOU KNOW SQUAT ABOUT WHAT THE DEALERS TRY AND CHARGE HERE AS A "CUSTOM".   Second, I've been in the car business over 20 years and I know what "purchase price" is and what "dealer add-ons" are, especially where taxes are concerned and how they are calculated.   I thought I was entering the "MINI world" where people weren't quite as uptight as some. I guess not. It's probably typical of most boards. The people who have a few car purchases under their belts think that they have the entire process nailed.
#76 of 1111 by steve_ HOST Jul 13, 2004 (12:09 pm)
fwiw, Edmunds shows MSRP to be the National Base Price without the destination charge. So MSRP for a MINI CooperS 2dr Hatchback (1.6L 4cyl S/C 6M) would be $19,899. Destination is $550. link (you have to select a color and go to the next page to see the destination fee).   There's a footnote about ad fees but I don't think that applies to the MINI.   My memory is a bit fuzzy but I think we used to consider that MSRP included destination. The National Base Price stuff is only a year or so old.   My sister is still thinking about one, but she's not rushing into anything.   Steve, Host
#80 of 1111 Received Production Number by mfullmer Jul 14, 2004 (5:57 am)
I've received my production number and am now tracking my MINI!   Since I haven't yet paid anything or signed any contract I'll definitely negotiate that "Dealer Prep" fee. I've done it in the past and, it seems, here in Atlanta where every dealer I've dealt with puts it in, they pretty much expect you to.
#81 of 1111 Congratulations Mike on yor Mini order by rayt2 Jul 15, 2004 (10:31 am)
The add on charges are always hot topics and "BS' charges to me also. I paid $195 in "document fees" additonal after my MSRP purchase of my Mini way back in April of 03, that was at Prestige Mini in N.J.. They would not negotiate that fee whatsoever even as ridiculous as it was. I swallowed hard and made the buy based on my need for a good gas mileage commuter and the "fun factor" of driving this oversized go cart. I don't regret it but the fees are ridiculous. $50 I can understand but not over or above that.   I hope all the warranty repairs I've had done are'nt indicative of things to come after my warranty runs out! I already have 33k after just 15 months. Maybe time to trade up to a MCS at the end of warranty...hmmmm !   Ray T. Replies to this message: Sylvia (Jul 15, 2004 2:38 pm) micweb (Jul 16, 2004 8:46 am)
#82 of 1111 Re: Congratulations Mike on yor Mini order [rayt2] by Sylvia STAFF Jul 15, 2004 (2:38 pm)
Replying to: rayt2 (Jul 15, 2004 10:31 am) Hey Ray - some states regulate the doc fees. People have discussed it over in the Smart Shopper board. Just a side note.

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