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If you want the car right away and don't mind paying the extra, go for it. MSRP is just a number on a piece of paper. What matters is that you feel the car gives good value to you personally. But if you don't mind traveling (or shipping the car) you can get MSRP deals with short waits at a several dealers across the country. It's just a matter of how much your time and trouble is worth to you. - Mark |
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| I was looking at a mcs monte carlo pkg the other day. I think the sticker on the car was about 27000. Any idea on the car and the price . Is it worth the extras over the normal mcs with all options for a little $$$$ less ? | |
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Yesterday I orderd my new '05 MINI Cooper! Base vehicle (I need automatic) in Chili Red/White top with Cordoba Leather Interior. I got every option available except the Sport Package as I didn't want the run-flats. I did get all of the other Sport Package options seperately though. I like the combo. I worked with Global Imports, here in Atlanta and, including dealer installed XM Stereo it came to $26,604 plus $595 dealer prep (includes carpeted floor mats). Straight MSRP. What I can't get over is how "FUN" this car company is. I've always had higher-end GM cars or, most recently, Lexus'. Although I never had a bad experience with them, this whole MINI process has been so much fun! I get little emails from both my sales consultant and MINI with cute stories and links. I can't wait to get it! It should be here sometime the end of August.
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Replying to: mfullmer (Jul 09, 2004 2:01 am) Most manufacturers include the cost of dealer prep in the cost of the car. Is it different for the Mini?
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Replying to: 307web (Jul 09, 2004 9:39 am) I have only negotiated on the Dealer Prep fee once when a Cadillac dealer tried to charge me $895. Most dealers are in the $500-$600 range and I felt comfortable paying them this. I DID pay "straight MSRP" as that was what I agreed to purchase the car for, the amount that was taxed. "Fees" are not considered part of the purchase price of the vehicle regardless of whether they are Documentation Fees, License Fees, Tag Fees, etc. |
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Replying to: mfullmer (Jul 09, 2004 9:57 am) Dealer prep fees are charges to clean and prepare the car for delivery (check tires, fluids, obvious defects etc.). Most manufacturers include those costs in the MSRP and do not have the dealers make an additional charge for that. A few manufacturers do not, so that is why I was asking does Mini officially not pay the dealers and expect the dealers to charge this directly to the consumer? If so, then 100% of Mini dealers would charge it. If this is not a dealer prep fee and is a doc fee, they are charging around $600 to file your paperwork to the DMV, and that's also outrageous. If you don't care, then just be satisfied you paid $600 over sticker and be done with it. Many people are satisfied with that and pay similar amounts in additional dealer markup or overpriced mandatory dealer-installed accessories and paint/fabric sealants, undercoating etc. because they want the car desperately and are at the dealers mercy due to lack of competition. |
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Replying to: 307web (Jul 09, 2004 11:42 am) Purchase Price and "out the door" cost are two entirely different things. There is a big difference between paying a dealer markup (example: MSRP: $37,000.00 + Dealer Markup $1,500 = (Negotiated Sales Price) $18,500) and paying MSRP (negotiated sales price) and fees. This was most evident while I was looking because I was considering a Toyota Prius. Some dealers would sell at MSRP and some would sell at MSRP + $5,000 dealer markup. On the other hand ALL Toyota dealerships in my area (all dealerships I have come across, period.) charge a dealer fee of $500-600. Working with an "Out the Door" figure makes no sense at all. This fee is also in the area where I put the down payment in. Because the bottom line there is what I'm financing do I say I purchased the car for $7,500 under MSRP????? FEES and NEGOTIATED PRICE are two entirely different things.
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Replying to: 307web (Jul 09, 2004 11:42 am)
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Replying to: mfullmer (Jul 09, 2004 12:01 pm) The dealer got extra profit and allows the buyer save face to be able to say they bought at MSRP, and the state/county didn't derive any extra tax revenue from it since it was excluded from taxation by being classified as a "fee." It is semantics since you had to write a larger check regardless. So, the Toyota dealers selling the Prius also charge it and that it makes it sound even more like it is just marked up junk fees they charge on "in-demand" cars, just because they can. The only dealer fee I have paid on cars have been the "doc fee" which was been $45 to $55. The rest of the fees on top of the selling price and destination charge listed on the factory sticker are only government fees (tax, license, registration, title etc.), but I haven't bought a car that was in such desperate demand as a Mini or Prius, so the dealers would not be able to get away with it in my case. |
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