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Buying a new mini by cct1
Aug 01, 2006 (10:58 am)
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This has been rehashed several times, but in a nutshell, no, I wouldn't by a 2007 (They'll probably be available in January). I'd either get a 2006 or wait and get a Mini in 2008.
 
When the new Mini came out in 2002, it was plagued by a number of problems all over the car--from build quality, to engine stumble and yo-yo. It really wasn't until 2004 (for the base Mini) or 2005 (For the Mini S) that the major issues were sorted out. The 2007 will be new from the ground up, and done by a different design team that created the first Mini--I'd wait at least until 2008, or even better, 2009, to get the bugs worked out--the new engine is an order of magnitude more complicated than the old one.
 
Either way, if you decide to buy in Wisconsin, International Motors is very, very good--that's where I got mine (at MSRP with mats thrown in--that's it). Knauz in Chicago (Not too far from Milwaukee) is also a wonderful dealer.
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Re: Buying a new mini [cct1] by mlwagner79
Aug 01, 2006 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: cct1 (Aug 01, 2006 10:58 am)

Sounds like a plan. I'm hoping I can find a dealer in the Bay Area that doesn't charge over MSRP, but from reading here that sounds like a tall order.
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Factory Closing dates (7/31/06 - 8/13/06) by mini_dreams
Aug 03, 2006 (12:41 pm)
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Hi All,
 
I just ordered my Mini Cooper and then saw in the Owner's Lounge, plant tour section that the plant is closed in August! Bad timing! Like everyone else, I wasn't sure if this meant just for tours, the entire plant, all of August, etc.
 
So, I emailed Mini to find out and got the nice (and clear) reply below about the factory vacation time -- July 31st to August 13th, with production being halted during this time. Hopefully, Minis on order will be at the top of the list when production starts up again! I have to keep saying to myself: "patience is a virtue, patience is a virtue..."
 
Max
 
~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Hi Max:
 
Thanks for contacting MINI. I am happy to answer your question.
 
The MINI plant in Oxford, England is closed from July 31st through August 13th. Production is halted during this time.
 
I hope this answers your question. If there are further questions I can assist with, please feel free to drop me an e-mail. I will be happy to lend a hand.
 
LET’S MOTOR.
 
Carrie Zartman
MINI Customer Relations and Services
Representative
866.ASK.MINI (275-6464)
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Re: Factory Closing dates (7/31/06 - 8/13/06) [mini_dreams] by cct1
Aug 03, 2006 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: mini_dreams (Aug 03, 2006 12:41 pm)

They're retooling the plant for the next generation Mini (I just found that out for sure the other day)--I'm not sure why they call it a "factory vacation", maybe that's what they call retooling there....
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Re: Factory Closing dates (7/31/06 - 8/13/06) [cct1] by mlwagner79
Aug 04, 2006 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: cct1 (Aug 03, 2006 2:22 pm)

I asked at the dealership on Wednesday and they said it's not for retooling, that that doesn't happen til December.
 
Who knows with these guys though...
 
Anyway, I found the answers to my own questions in my post above. I went to East Bay Mini in Pleasanton on Wednesday, put my $1000 down and ordered my Cooper. I paid MSRP but have quite a wait (8-15 weeks). Every other dealer in the SF Bay Area charges a minimum of $1000 over MSRP, going as high as $2500 over in some cases, so I'm guessing that East Bay gets a lot of business because of this and that's why it takes longer with them. I'm patient though They will negotiate my trade-in and other terms about 2 weeks before the car is due in.
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Re: Factory Closing dates (7/31/06 - 8/13/06) [mlwagner79] by bfromhold
Aug 04, 2006 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: mlwagner79 (Aug 04, 2006 7:58 am)

F.Y.I. Here's more info on the closure (which seems to mostly affect the vistor's center):
 
Dear Brenda
  
Thank you for your further reply.
  
We can confirm that it is only the MINI Visitor Centre which is the subject
of refurbishment.
  
Production of the MINI in all its forms will continue as before with MINIs
rolling off the production line on a daily basis and also being delivered to
MINI Dealerships, MINI Customers and MINI Shows throughout the UK and the
rest of the world.
  
We hope that this reassures you and would advise that we are not yet aware
of when the refurbishment will be complete.
  
Yours sincerely
  
MINI UK
  
Elfriede McNeal
Product Information Advisor
 
Also, here's another comments on the matter at motoringfile.com:
 
To all concerned:
 
The factory closure will not delay the production of MINIs. However, it has severly decreased the monthly allocation to each dealership. MINI Delearships only received an allocation of 15 to 20 MINIs for August Production. This is very small compared to the usual 40 to 50 MINIs. When late September comes around, most MINI lots should be empty.
 
The 2006 Hardtop will be built through October for the United States. 2007 Hardtop production for the US Market will begin in December and should reach dealerships in February. Most dealerships will be receiving around 12 units for the first month.

 
Worldwide MINI Sales Down in 2006
Sections: Sales Aug 3rd, 2006

  
Measures to expand the production capacity of the Oxford plant to approximately 240,000 units per year have impacted on the sales volume of the MINI brand over the six-month period. As a result of the reduced production volume during this period, worldwide MINI sales, at 101,063 units, were down by 6.5% compared to one year earlier (first half-year 2005: 108,114 units).
 
Source: BMW Group Press

 
MINI Plant Oxford To Close for Construction
Sections: In the Press Jul 31st, 2006

 
As reported previously, BMW will be halting production for a couple of weeks while it puts the finishing touches on plant remodelling in anticipation of full R56 production. You can read more about it from the Sunday Times:
 
Last year Oxford built 200,119 Minis. Helmut Panke, who retires next month after four boom years as BMW chairman, predicts that production will rise to 230,000 over the next few years. BMW is spending £100m on expanding the Oxford facility and expects to create an additional 200 jobs there by the end of next year.
 
But, like the original BMC Mini of the 1960s, the car is not very profitable. Bernd Pischetsrieder, a former BMW chief who now heads VW, once described the sales margin as “unacceptable” and wanted to set the Mini Cooper’s price higher than the £11,600 at its 2001 launch.
 
[ BMW to Boost MINI Production ] Sunday Times
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Oxford Cowley Shutdown by cluedweasel
Aug 04, 2006 (12:39 pm)
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Bear in mind that in the U.K., most people get between 4 to 6 weeks a year of vactaion time (plus the 9 public holidays). A lot of car plants will shut down for two weeks in the summer for general maintenance and cleaning.
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mini problems by snowjet03
Aug 04, 2006 (12:25 pm)
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mini problems by snowjet03
Aug 04, 2006 (12:25 pm)
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i am trying to buy a mini but, i am having the worst trouble. i mean i know that they are high in demand. but, the dealers don't offer any incentives and they want you to take the price as is. what happened to negotiating.
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Re: Factory Closing dates (7/31/06 - 8/13/06) [mlwagner79] by snowjet03
Aug 04, 2006 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: mlwagner79 (Aug 04, 2006 7:58 am)

i just went to east bay mini on wednesday august 2. i fell in love with a grey mini. but, i wasn't in love with paying msrp. the fact that they are not willing to come down on the price. or work any kind of deal. sort of turns me off.

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