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Re: Might buy a used [markjenn] by micweb
Jan 20, 2006 (4:29 pm)
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Replying to: markjenn (Jan 20, 2006 10:33 am)

With respect to paying the "new price" for a three year old car - my motto has always been, if you are paying new price or close to new price (little depreciation), why on earth buy used? The "useful life" of most cars is 100,000 miles, so a car with 50,000 miles is already down half its useful life. Also, were those 50,000 miles easy or hard miles? Was the car taken in to fix every warranty glitch, or were things allowed to slide?
 
I am a contrarian. I think the best used car buys are the models that depreciate a lot, for no other reason than they aren't popular - like virtually all American cars. Japanese cars (and MINI's, of course) sell so close to new price, you might as well buy new.
 
This all assumes you are buying a car not more than 30,000 miles and 4 years old.
 
After that, or cdrtainly if you are looking at 10 year old cars, Japanese cars are better because they are more reliable in the long run, and (more importantly) they are more likely to have been kept up - owners of imports bite the bullet and pay for repairs and maintenance, while owners of Big 3 cars dump them at the first sign of trouble - thus creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. A MINI in 10 years will have "special interest" value far in excess of its actual economic (costs of operation, costs of repairs and maintenance) factors.
 
Just be patient and order your MINI. Many of the options do not add a lot of value to the basic car, which is already nice as is. Options and accessories really pump up the out the door price. If you build your car on line, print it out, then review it a week later and trim the "extras" you probably don't really need or want, you'll be surprised how affordable either MINI (base of SC) is. The beauty of "every car is an order car" is that you can do this; so that, practically speaking, a MINI can be much more affordable that an Acura RSX since you don't have to pay for unwanted options because another make's dealer is reluctant or unable to order.
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I'd pass. by plekto
Jan 21, 2006 (2:43 am)
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When the redesigned 2007 medels come out, you'll suddenly find that the previous generation models suddenly will drop in value down to bluebook levels - no more premiums anymore for the old models, that's for sure.
 
So either wait and haggle hard when that happens or well, get a better car. For $25K, you can get a RX-8 or a used well - something far better than Mini makes. Now, Mini are great cars, make no mistake, but that much for a used one is silly.
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Buying out-of-state, is it ok for California smog regs? by trina4
Jan 22, 2006 (12:25 pm)
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Hi all,
I thinking of buying a car from out-of-state because I can't find what I want at MSRP here. My DMV says any new car has to be "california certified," with regard to emissions standards. Does anyone know if all MINIs sold in the US are also legal for sale in California. Don't know if I can trust a dealer to tell me the truth. Any help is so appreciated.
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Re: Buying out-of-state, is it ok for California smog regs? [trina4] by markjenn
Jan 22, 2006 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: trina4 (Jan 22, 2006 12:25 pm)

All Mini's are 50 state. You won't have any issues registering it in CA.
 
- Mark
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Re: Buying out-of-state, is it ok for California smog regs? [markjenn] by trina4
Jan 22, 2006 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: markjenn (Jan 22, 2006 12:52 pm)

much thanks mark! now i guess it's just a matter of calling every dealer out there.
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Re: Lease by tel not great, Just got a new 2005 MINI! by jorgekling
Jan 23, 2006 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: bvmd73 (Aug 24, 2005 2:30 pm)

Problem with Lease-By-Tel is that they give you the run around when it comes time to delivering the car to you. I got my car more than 3 weeks after the date I was promised. Had to spend more than $600 on rental cars in the meantime. They kept coming up with excuses after excuses. They would promise me it would be delivered on a certain day and they kep coming up with excuses. The savings were just not worth the hassle..
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Re: Mini in Cincinnati [kyfdx] by joberg
Jan 23, 2006 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 18, 2006 8:52 am)

I have already been in to talk with the salesperson and basically get a price on the car. When it comes time to order, do they have a reputation for tacking on extra fees (document, prep, etc) or does anyone know if they are fairly honest and straight-forward?
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Re: Mini in Cincinnati [joberg] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 23, 2006 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: joberg (Jan 23, 2006 2:47 pm)

I would characterize them as being honest and straightforward.. That said, there was a document fee pre-printed on my paperwork.. $95 or $125, I forget which.. As we had agreed on a total price, this had a line through it on my order..
 
I'm not real familiar with the MINI side, except that friends of mine who shopped there, said all sales are at MSRP.. That doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't some sort of dealer fee added.. I'm sure if you sat down with them ahead of time, they could show you exactly what you would be paying for a specific car.. Maybe even draw up a sample order for you, with all taxes and fees included.. so there would be no surprises at order time.
 
I'm guessing that if you insisted on only the MSRP, plus taxes and license... that you could probably get that done..
 
In other words.. if you ask, I'm sure they will be forthcoming with every single fee that you will have to pay.. And, with a little persistence, you might get them to dump any extra add-ons.
 
I would definitely want to know ahead of time.. the whole dealership is fairly friendly and accomodating, so I'm sure you can get the information you need with a phone call, or a short visit. (I was just there tonight, at the parts department!).
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Best way to sell a Mini? [trulytruly] by robn
Jan 24, 2006 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: trulytruly (Dec 30, 2005 1:36 pm)

I have my MCS 2003 on cars.com, with good response. Mine is electric blue and in perfect shape. I'd only sell her if the offer is good.
 
Rob N.
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Anyone get ANYTHING thrown in by dealer? by rbrooks3athome
Feb 04, 2006 (6:23 am)
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I'm in Atlanta and priced out my Mini yesterday. The "extra" costs look like they'll keep me from being an owner. Specifically it's 399 for a documents fee, 115 for the "PDI/Prog", and 125 for the detailing pkg which I was told really has to be done (though not demanded) because the paint is not sealed from the factory. The sealing is done in this detail and polishing step. It adds over 600 to the car and of course there's sales tax.
 
I still have to add in things like the black hood striping and floor mats. The dealer is adding nothing. I know it's only 600 but everyone has a budget and this may well break mine. Has anyone gotten anything thrown in by the dealer to help offset the purchase? My dealer is even charging me 59 for wheel locks if I want them!
 
Thanks,
 
Ron B.

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