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Realistic price on MC "S" convertible in Atlanta by chile96
Oct 20, 2005 (10:48 am)
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wife wants a fun weekend car so we decided on a MC "s" convertible. Looks like it'll have to be an ordered car in the Atlanta area. Before I go over to the dealership, just wanted to make sure i had a realistic price on my mind.
 
I'm assuming MSRP on a heavily optioned order car will be the ticket?
 
thanks
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Re: Realistic price on MC "S" convertible in Atlanta [chile96] by crunch
Oct 21, 2005 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: chile96 (Oct 20, 2005 10:48 am)

I would expect MSRP in Atlanta. I have heard of some unusually high dealer add-on charges in Atlanta though. Be sure to ask your sales person for a detailed list of charges before you sign up for anything. Don't want any surprises.
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Current lease terms for Mini S? by maxillo
Oct 22, 2005 (4:50 pm)
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Has anyone recently leased an 05 Mini S?
 
I'm in the NY area and am thinking about leasing one. Does the MF of 0.0028 still apply? What about residual % (57% after 36 months 12000 mile/year)?
 
Any help would be much appreciated.
 
cheers
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Just About Pulling my Hair Out by plekto
Oct 24, 2005 (8:58 am)
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So I want a MIni. I like the car and the resale value is nice. I drive 8-10K miles a year and am the perfect candidate for a lease or to buy.
 
Yet I live in California. I went to the local dealer in Monrovia and they were charging $4K over MSRP on the non-S models. He said he wouldn't even order one for me for less than $20K, unless it had at least $2000 in dealer installed options on top of that so that he could make the same profit(this on top of the $2K over invoice they already make!).
 
*boggle* Can they do this? If MiniUSA states a certain price is MSRP - how can the dealers charge more for one you order directly from the factory? Is there a way that I can just deal with Mini directly and have them deliver it to the local dealer in a few months?
 
So I talked to the one in North Hollywood. They were willing to order one for MSRP, but only if I used their financing - otherwise, you guessed it - 4K markup. I asked about a lease - but it came back with something silly - they were calculating the residual value as if it were a Ford or something - said it would be worth $10K in 4 years or some nonsense.(find me a 2001 Cooper for $10K that isn't flood-damaged - I defy you to find one) Their in-house financing was like 18%, naturally. $400-something a month on a base Cooper. Gheez.
 
SIGH. So tired of getting a run-around. I just want to get one but can't since there doesn't seem to be any dealership in California that isn't hopelessly corrupt. How can Mini tolerate peole who run businesses like this? Is it even legal to force someone to pay more than MSRP for something they order directly from the manufacturer? This has to be illegal somehow.
 
If I can't make this work within a few weeks - I'll tell you right now(and I know MiniUSA reads these forums) - I'll just buy a used IS300 or RX-8 or something.
 
Great car. Worst dealerships on the planet. It's a bad combination.
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Re: Just About Pulling my Hair Out [plekto] by markjenn
Oct 24, 2005 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Oct 24, 2005 8:58 am)

Car dealerships are independent businesses that are free to charge what the market will bear. There is nothing illegal about this at all. In fact, what IS illegal is a mfg forcing a car dealer to sell at a fixed price. And if you think about it, if it was illegal for them to charge more than MSRP, then wouldn't it also be illegal for you to go in and negotiate a price below MSRP?. If the price were fixed, then it would cut both ways.
 
The only mfg which does have a fixed price policy right now is Saturn. I think they can do this because the Saturn dealerships are owned by the mfg - they're not independent franchises like other car dealerships. But again, this cuts both ways - no Saturn is sold for above MSRP, but none or sold for below MSRP either.
 
As to ordering it directly from Mini, MiniUSA is the exclusive importer and the Mini dealer network is the exclusive retail outlet for cars imported from MiniUSA. You could try and buy a car overseas and have it shipped here, but this is just a momumental hassle and expense as the car has to be brought to US emissions and safety standards. This isn't feasible.
 
What you can do is simply take your business to somewhere else where the supply is higher and the demand lower. Most of the rest of the country's dealers will happily order a car for MSRP and deliver it 2-3 months later. You can either go pick it up and drive home or have it shipped to you. All cars sold in the US meet CA emissions standards so there is no hassle there.
 
- Mark
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Thanks by plekto
Oct 24, 2005 (4:03 pm)
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I guess I'll have to do it that way. There are some options that I want on it that normally don't come on it, like the rear foglight and side turn indicators and a few other things - you basically have to order it that way.
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Re: Current lease terms for Mini S? [maxillo] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 24, 2005 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: maxillo (Oct 22, 2005 4:50 pm)

You might have better luck, if you post your question here:
 
MINI Cooper: Lease Questions
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Money Factor Question [gasgirl] by minigirl1
Oct 28, 2005 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: gasgirl (Oct 09, 2005 1:22 pm)

What are the problems folks have had with the cloth soft top? I have experienced no problems here.
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Re: The scoop on buying a S convertible in So Cal [bkirsch2000] by nycgrrrl
Nov 15, 2005 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: bkirsch2000 (Sep 12, 2005 8:38 pm)

Hello fellow MINI lovers!!!
 
Desperately seeking wise advice and wisdom regarding buying a mini cooper convertible (base model) in silver. I will be moving to Los Angeles on January 4th, 2006, and would like to know the fastest and cheapest way to make this happen.
 
Has anyone used a car broker or CARSDIRECT.COM? Are they any good? If anyone can refer me to a car broker, I would be very interested to hear your experiences and how much you paid for their service, and what kind of a deal they managed to get for you.
 
I am a first time car buyer (after living in nyc for the last 12 years), and feel totally overwhelmed and nervous about the buying/negotiating process.
 
I am currently in transition at the moment, so I do not have a home address. (I'm staying with friends in Barcelona until I move to L.A. in January) How do you go about securing car insurance and ordering a MINI if you do not have a current address to give???
 
Basically, I will be moving to L.A. Jan.4th, staying at a hotel while I look for an apt. to rent. I will also be renting a car until I can buy my MINI convertible. Does anyone know if I have a chance of ordering one now, and having it ready and waiting for me by January 4th?
If not ready and waiting, at least ready within 2-4 weeks of arrival?
 
I had no idea that you had to wait so long for a MINI. especially in L.A. What are the chances of finding a silver base model convertible(manual transmission) on a dealer's lot when I arrive? Does the fact that it is right after the holidays help me or hurt me?
 
Please, if there is a kind soul out there who could recommend good finance options or insurance options, I would be so grateful. I've heard it hurts your credit score if you make too many inquiries - does anyone know what the time period is for when they lump all your car financing inquiries into one inquiry?
 
Don't know where to start. Can I order the car first, and then deal with financing and insurance? Or should I secure financing first, insurance second, and then order the car? Can I use a friend's address in L.A. temporarily to make all these things happen?
 
I simply can't afford to rent a car for more than a couple of weeks.....would love to line everything up now, so that I would only need a rental car for less than a month.
 
Beth - how was your experience??? How did you finally get your MINI?
 
When I e-mail internet managers regarding their selling price, what is the best way to proceed without sounding like the first time buyer that I am? I'm not well versed in car terminology, what is the best way of approaching them? Do I ask if they are charging MSRP, or just ask them what their "out the door" price is?
 
Is it possible to order straight off the MINI website?
 
Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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buying a mini by cct1
Nov 16, 2005 (10:05 am)
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You can order the car first and arrange financing later. There are a number of ways to finance--credit union, or over the web. Your dealer may offer to match your best rate once you have a firm offer for financing.
 
The mini plant is shutting down in January for a few weeks; I'd order ASAP; January fourth is going to be pushing it, but you can get a production date before the plant shutdown. There are other dealers than the ones in LA--you can even order in the midwest and have the car sent to you for example. Don't pay over MSRP, but expect to pay MSRP. Wether you can find one on the lot or not is a crapshoot--you might want to check with several dealers around the country.
 
You can configure your car at the mini website, but you can't order it from miniUSA--you will need a dealer for that.

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