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2010 factory build by bilseg47
Oct 07, 2009 (6:46 pm)
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The sales staff at my local dealer (unidentified for now) have told me that 2010 factory orders will be taken AT MSRP. Using the Edmunds TMV calculation page that is approx. 10% over invoice cost. In my configuration that is close to $3,000 profit to place the order (because the dealership does not incur any of the costs associated with a car designated for lot sale).
Has anyone out there ordered a 2010 for less than MSRP? I live in CA and really have no problem dealing with any of the dealers in the state (or NV & AZ for that matter).
I probably would have paid the MSRP cost justifying it by saying that the dealer is entitled to a profit (even if a bit steep) until the sales person said that all their 2010 orders are done with Lojack and Perma plate. I said no to both then their "out the door" quote was still $600 OVER MSRP + tax/license/title. Making for a $3,600 profit!!
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this just in... by rayainsw
Oct 16, 2009 (4:11 am)
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http://blogs.edmunds.com/strategies/2009/10/mini-extended-service-contracts-now-- available-through-mini.html
 
My daughter has a MINI - at 38,000 miles -ish
Need to investigate this.
May make some folks more comfortable
with a MINI purchase...
- Ray
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Re: this just in... [rayainsw] by drea111
Oct 18, 2009 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Oct 16, 2009 4:11 am)

Hi Ray,
 
The protection plan info is really interesting. I wish that I had the same warranty options when I purchased a '04 Certified Pre-Owned Mini S with extended warranty. You would think that everything would be ok-not so much.
 
I have driven the car 15,000. Here is the quick and dirty:
38,700 miles Bought a Certified Pre-Owned 04 Mini s w/ extended warranty-April 08
 
38,708 miles Returned the car because the rear bumper was two-toned-April 08
 
46,629 miles The crankshaft pulley, bolt, tensioner were repaired-Jan. 09
 
53,000 miles The clutch, tire arms, tire bolts, tires…all need repairs-Oct. 09
 
The January repairs were covered. The October repairs are not covered and will cost $6,600 from the dealer or $5,400 from a mechanic.
 
It may make sense to check out the other forum discussions like clutch/transmission to hear other drivers experiences...
  
I have more info on my experience & the forensics of buying a mini.
 
I hope that this helps.
Good Luck!
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Looking for Mini Convertible in NY area by exit56
Oct 28, 2009 (3:15 am)
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Need a convertible by Thanksgiving Day (wife's 40th birthday).
 
Are New York area dealers still getting full sticker price for the 2009 models? Seems to be a lot of inventory still left.
 
Are the 2010s in the showroom yet?
 
Would I get a better bang for my buck with a used one?
 
Thanks!
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Re: Looking for Mini Convertible in NY area [exit56] by bilseg47
Oct 28, 2009 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: exit56 (Oct 28, 2009 3:15 am)

Yo Exit56
 
First the 2010s are in the showroom here... second, I sense an urgency in the tone of your email... If a dealer senses that also they will be much less inclined to "deal".
 
I would suggest that you check the dealer inventory on the MINI USA site of every dealer within a few hundred miles, make a list of those that have what you want and then send the sales manager of each one an email in essence saying what you want, that you are ready to deal and see what their best offer would be... and see who gets back to you. THAT'S who you want to deal with!
 
Two alternative suggestions... There are more convertibles in inventory in Fla & California this time of year. Buy one there and give your wife a plane ticket for her birthday... she can drive it home!! OR If she really wants a MINI, she probably knows exactly what she wants... for her birthday let her order a 2010 exactly the way she wants it... Trust me, the weeks between order date and delivery date will probably be some of the best of your life!! hahahahah...
 
NOTE: Shop around. Even on a 2010 order don't pay MSRP! I was able to get a dealer to agree to Invoice plus a flat fee of $1,500. A factory order costs a dealer very little. IMHO, all dealers should adopt a policy on factory orders of "invoice + set fee".
 
Hope this helps you out some....
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Re: Looking for Mini Convertible in NY area [bilseg47] by longmanzz
Nov 06, 2009 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: bilseg47 (Oct 28, 2009 5:14 am)

Hi, bilseg47, so according to your experience, how much flat fee we should add on top of the invoice for a 09 model? thanks
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NJ area by jeffrey12341
Nov 07, 2009 (1:19 am)
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hey, bilseg i live around the nyc area and i just want to know when u mean invoice plus set fee u mean u pated the out the door price of invoice+1,500? or do you have to add tav title and registration and anything else? I really wanna buy a mini cooper.
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Re: Looking for Mini Convertible in NY area [longmanzz] by bilseg47
Nov 07, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: longmanzz (Nov 06, 2009 11:15 am)

No.... you're reading me wrong. IF you are in negotiations for a 2009, it's because it's ON THE DEALERS LOT. That means that the dealer accepted it into inventory, and has costs associated with doing same (lot fees, taxes, insurance, etc). They have an investment in the vehicle. MSRP offsets those costs and builds in a profit margin.
So Invoice + flat fee is an unrealistic request on a "lot" car... but it makes sense on a factory order because the dealer incurs little cost and the fee is pretty much his profit. Depending on the volume of MINIs he sells per month and/or the time of the month when you order, they can gauge whether the deal works for them. "flat-fee" levels the playing field for the buyer. Example: Two buyers want to do a factory order. Buyer (a) wants a "basic" MINI with no add-ons and Buyer (b) wants a "fully loaded" MINI... from the dealers perspective it doesn't cost them any more to order/deliver either one so the "fee" to do so should be the same. And lastly, FIND A DEALER THAT WILL WORK WITH YOU. Not all dealers are the same. Shop around. Expand your search out a few hundred miles... if you're doing a factory order most of it can be done via email any way!
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Re: NJ area [jeffrey12341] by bilseg47
Nov 07, 2009 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: jeffrey12341 (Nov 07, 2009 1:19 am)

Invoice + fee is for the vehicle only.... Once you've agreed to that your dealer can then calculate tax, license, and registration fees and give you a detailed, firm "out-the-door" price.
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Re: NJ area [bilseg47] by jeffrey12341
Nov 08, 2009 (2:14 am)
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Replying to: bilseg47 (Nov 07, 2009 7:22 am)

ok bilseg47.Thanks for really helpimg me out, i appreciate it. So pretty much you got the cr for 1,500 over invoice before tax title and reg. and i should be expecting the same? What city did u buy it in? i live in the same nyc area and i know theres a few dealers in our ara. Dawm my keyboard sucks,

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