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1304 messages, Last post on Nov 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM
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Replying to: atrajan (Jun 26, 2009 7:16 pm) The Mini is one of a few vehicles that doesn't suffer from the same routinized and accountant-friendly depreciation formulas as the rest of the industry uses. In plain English, it suffers almost no depreciation on the vehicle itself(* see below) in the first few years. Now, I put an asterisk there. This is the base model of the car/trim line - accessories or other options of course do depreciate and rather quickly. So a $20K Mini with 5K in add-ons is going to be worth about $19-20K a year later. So will a $20K mini with $500 in options. So the rule here is to get the one or two you absolutely need and reject the eye candy and frills.(plus it's good practice as you don't give the manufacturer loads of easy profit on mostly plastic bits and paint) This of course gets back to the original problem, which is you have a vehicle that because of its desirability and low production numbers essentially isn't depreciating hardly at all if you've already done your homework and kept it as lean as possible to start. Leasing doesn't make any sense at all in such a scenario. Consider that your initial down payment to start the lease is about the first year's entire depreciation. In 36 months, you'll have spent $10354 on the vehicle. That's half of its entire value. Try to find a used 3 year old Mini for even $15K. Good luck with that... heh. Note that that's half the depreciation of your lease payments and it's still unrealistically high. It's impossible in a Mini to get upside-down on your payments. This is more of a "free money" type thing when this happens.(which IIRC, only 2-3 cars currently are like this and this desirable, so basically it never does happen) Therefore the "smart money" is to just buy it outright and haggle $500-$1000 under retail price if you can(first year's depreciation covered!) like a lot of people here seem to be able to do right now. Make the payments, drive it for 5 years, and sell it for 75% of what you paid for it. $10,354/36=287.61 a month actual cost to lease. $19,000(haggle)-$14,000(sell used)=$5000 in depreciation. = $138.89 a month actual cost to buy.(actually the normal $2-4K or so down payment in most cases would cover almost all of this) |
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Replying to: 2xsubaru (Jun 25, 2009 2:34 pm) Thanks for posting your purchasing deal. Which dealer and sales person did you work with? I'm looking to buy pretty soon... either in SF or Socal area, and would love to get $1000 my deal as well. Thanks!
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Hi, I'm thinking about buying a MINI HT from Ralph Schomp in Littleton, CO. Would like to get other's feedback on their experience at this dealership. Any luck in getting them to come down from the MSRP? Here is the offer they gave me on this model. MINI HT 6SPD Manual - 18,550 (MSRP - no mark down) Cold Weather Pkg - 500 Premium Pkg - 1,250 Sport Pkg - 1,500 White Turn Signals - 100 Net Totals - 21,900 Destination Chg - 650 Total Price - 22,550 Their lease offer is below: MSRP : 22,550 Residual: 64% (14,368 - balloon payment at end of lease) MF : .00230 3 year/36,000 Miles $0 down for $297/Month Thanks!
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Replying to: amiie (Jul 06, 2009 12:55 pm) With low sales last month for the Mini and the 2010 models coming out soon, I am sure there are deals to be had out there. As per Edmunds, I cannot post name of the salesperson.Not sure if there some way to PMs on this forum. |
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Replying to: tno80303 (Jul 07, 2009 6:55 am) P.S: I got the color i want ...chilli Red
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Replying to: atrajan (Jul 07, 2009 8:02 pm) Thanks again! |
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| I'm going to seriously consider a Clubman S (and maybe a 2010 4 Door GTI) since I can get a cash 4 clunkers $4500 credit if I give up my barely running 1990 E30 325i BMW. Has anyone dealt with Ray Catena MINI of Westchester? | |
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Hey all, I'm dealing with a few dealerships in the MD/VA area trying to get a good price. I'm more than likely going to order one because they don't have one in their inventories with what I want. The MSRP is coming too $32,450, then add taxes, tags, title etc. By my calculations the out-the-door price would be around $34,700, they're offering me $34,000. Wanted to get a vibe if I'm getting a good deal. Thanks! |
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Jul 08, 2009 6:41 pm)  nyccarguy: If you are not absolutely invested in the Mini or the 2010 GTi, I would suggest you take a look at the 2009 GTis. There are some incredible deals going around for that car - dealers are having hard time selling but apparently VW keeps shipping them. One dealer I went to offered a 3000$ discount on the spot even before negotiations began! I was sorely tempted as the GTi was fun to drive. But I (and more importantly, the wife) wanted a convertible for the SoCal weather. So I am going for the Mini. 
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Replying to: 2xsubaru (Jul 09, 2009 6:48 am) I'm sure I can get a sick deal on an '09 GTI, but I tend to keep my cars for a while (I've owned my current '01 Honda Prelude Type SH for over 7 years & 113K miles), but the '09 isn't the car I want. Thanks for the tip though. The GTI is going to have to blow me out of the water though. I'm a BMW nut and really dig the MINI (plus it is my 2 1/2 year-old's favorite car) |
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