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#115 of 1111 Re: No more MINI [mfullmer] by berger2626 Dec 14, 2004 (8:21 pm)
Replying to: mfullmer (Jul 24, 2004 8:59 am) In Atlanta, the documentation fees have gotten out of hand.   I used to work at a dealership in town, and we initially had a doc fee of $149,and then we bumped it to $199, ...$249, ...$299,... $399, and finally $499 all in a period of 3 1/2 years. People kept paying it. We used to not include it if a car was advertised in the newspaper as a loss leader, because it was illegal to sell the car for more money then what was advertised; but then new management took over, and they told us to get "strong" and get the fee, and dare the customers to sue us. We sent many a shopper home without the ad car. I left the business in 1998, but it seems like nothing in Atlanta has changed. The dealers still take advantage, because the buying public keeps paying it. Replies to this message: aika (Dec 27, 2004 4:41 pm) jhunterbob (Mar 24, 2005 12:47 pm)
#116 of 1111 Re: Houston, TX dealers? [tgfire] by dutch27 Dec 15, 2004 (8:58 pm)
Replying to: tgfire (Nov 16, 2004 4:38 pm) BMW/MINI of the Woodlands seems to be OK. Apparently folks fly in from out of town to buy from them. I'm in the market for a MCS & they seem easy to talk to. No mark-ups; a few MINI's on the lot. Don't know anything about the service department, though. Good luck.......
#117 of 1111 Re: No more MINI [berger2626] by aika Dec 27, 2004 (4:41 pm)
Replying to: berger2626 (Dec 14, 2004 8:21 pm) What steps need to be taken to lower the doc fee other than not to purchase?
#118 of 1111 by frankcoopers Jan 03, 2005 (4:59 pm)
I am thinking of selling my '04 MCS with 16,800 miles and order a new '05 MCS.   I have not yet driven the '05 Cooper S with the improvements to the gearing ratios and added engine HP. Is it worth it moving up to a '05 coming from a '04 MCS?   My car has been extremely reliable and still looks brand new. 15 Months old, September 2003 build. Replies to this message: crunch (Jan 03, 2005 5:24 pm)
#119 of 1111 Re: [frankcoopers] by crunch Jan 03, 2005 (5:24 pm)
Replying to: frankcoopers (Jan 03, 2005 4:59 pm) While you probably won't loose much, you will loose something on the deal. I would keep the 04 and add the 05 JCW engine tuning package. You will feel the difference! I have driven stock 04's and 05's and the difference is very small. Not worth the trade to me. Remember, the MINI gets a major engine re-do for the 07 model so keeping the 04 might be the better deal.
#120 of 1111 05 vs. 04 by markjenn Jan 04, 2005 (8:44 am)
I agree with the previous poster. The changes in the 05 vs. 04 are almost imperceptible. And if you'd make this trade, then you'll surely want to make the trade to the 07, meaning you'll be trading three times in four years. Which is fine if you like buying new cars all the time and can afford it, but hardly cost effective.   I put the JCW package in the same category (not very cost effective), but you will notice the difference.   - Mark
#121 of 1111 Mini Purchase by joester Jan 16, 2005 (1:53 pm)
Hi, I bought a Mini Cooper from Manhattan Mini of New York. A great experiance once you understand the nuonces. They charge list, period. Ok but so did Saturn when it first came out. There is no benefit to buying out of their stock because the old rule of thumb doesn't apply. You don't get any bargain to helping a dealer unload his stock. I ordered mine it took 2 months. The scary part of my sale was that my salesman was a real gentleman and when he called me one day I figured it was to inform that the car was in. Instead he told me that he was quiting and leaving me to the next available salesperson. I dreded this because there are more bad than good in this line of work (sorry if I offended anyone). All said and done the salesperson who replaced mine made a few mistakes during delivery and I had to be on my toes. The car though is fun. You are truely on stage when you drive it and I believe that the Pepper White color (I liked it so much that I ordered it solid toned) is that hotest color in the market today. The minute glitch of an expanding tailpipe that "clicks" when first warming up on a cold day is definately livable from my propective. Good luck to anyone who chooses this model. It's a lot of fun. Joe
#122 of 1111 by markjenn Jan 16, 2005 (4:02 pm)
Congrats on your new car.   Can you hear the tailpipe "clicking" while driving? I doubt it, so I'm thinking you're letting the car sit and idle to warm up. Not recommended by Mini and most engine experts. As soon as the engine runs well enough to take throttle and move off, it is best to drive away. You do want to take it easy until it reaches normal temp, but idling is not a good idea.   - Mark Replies to this message: joester (Jan 16, 2005 5:41 pm)
#123 of 1111 Re: [markjenn] by joester Jan 16, 2005 (5:41 pm)
Replying to: markjenn (Jan 16, 2005 4:02 pm) Mark, we have to define "idling". For me it's 2-5 minutes on a warm up. But I don't always agree with the manufacturers. Even before the days of synthetic oils. My 1997 GMC pick up was required to have oil changes every 7000 miles. I averaged about 1800 miles per oil change interval. Mini says 10,000 but I'm inclined not to agree with this. I still support the old school thinking that frequent oil changes and good warm ups are the way to go. Well that's the way we did it at State U Morrisville NY automotive engineering div. I believe there are 2 schools of thought about everything even break in techniques. You were right however about the clicking exhaust noise . It happens about the 2nd minute of warm up but it's a no brainer. A car this small it's not hard to locate the tail pipe and noises related to this. Just for curiousity do you own a mini too? Joe
#124 of 1111 '05 Mini Cooper S in NC? by killer_b Jan 16, 2005 (8:00 pm)
Has anyone recently purchased, ordered or otherwise received a quote from a Mini dealer in NC? I'm looking for one thats loaded with the exception of leather seating.   I'm considering the JCW package but I would like to hear some feedback from anyone that has one before I invest. Everything I've read and heard (Mini literature) so far is that the extra performance is more than just noticeable. It's very noticeable. Any thoughts?   Also, You have to give Kudos to BMW/MINI on how they have marketed the new MINIs with the miniusa website. By creating such an array of options in color, performance... etc, they have controlled the market in such a way that I imagine 75% or more of Mini sales are custom ordered cars. (Read between the lines.... people will pay more for a car that they have customized and perceive as "unique".) Not to mention, people have already gone through sticker shock before they arrive at the dealer... and if the website says thats the cost... then it must be true.   Cheers, Killer_B

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